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Re: Show HN: Instagram-scraper – Scrape instagram photos by tags, without API

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Unfortunately "whether you like it or not" doesn't carry much legal weight.

Tor and proxies solve that problem pretty nicely from experience. Not saying this is right, but if the service provider wants to play cat and mouse then I’m happy to take part.

I don't see how using Tor would make your legal case any stronger

Re: Show HN: Instagram-scraper – Scrape instagram photos by tags, without API

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What is HN’s opinion on the legality of these types of scrapers? Instagram’s robots.txt disallows this kind of scraping, same for their ToS. Legal precedents have been mixed - the recent LinkedIn vs HiQ case is a good signal, but it’s still in appeals court.

I dont believe in discrimination against bots. They have rights too and will be just as intelligent as humans in the future.

I think it this is a reference to Accelerando?

Re: Show HN: Instagram-scraper – Scrape instagram photos by tags, without API

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tor and proxies solve that problem pretty nicely from experience. Not saying this is right, but if the service provider wants to play cat and mouse then I’m happy to take part.

I don't see how using Tor would make your legal case any stronger

It would prevent the legal case from ever taking place, ideally.

Re: Show HN: Instagram-scraper – Scrape instagram photos by tags, without API

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What is HN’s opinion on the legality of these types of scrapers? Instagram’s robots.txt disallows this kind of scraping, same for their ToS. Legal precedents have been mixed - the recent LinkedIn vs HiQ case is a good signal, but it’s still in appeals court.

IMO scraping like this is shady at best. That said, however, there's no straightforward way to work with Instagram. It's original APIs are both limited and locked down. The new Facebookified APIs are limited and next to impossible to work with (they are geared exclusively to ads/marketing). So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ In a side project I use a library that effectively reverse-engineers Instagram's private API, pretends it's a user…

can you provide a link or source for that ? TY

Re: Show HN: Instagram-scraper – Scrape instagram photos by tags, without API

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post #15

What is HN’s opinion on the legality of these types of scrapers? Instagram’s robots.txt disallows this kind of scraping, same for their ToS. Legal precedents have been mixed - the recent LinkedIn vs HiQ case is a good signal, but it’s still in appeals court.

If the data is made available to me as a human, then I am free to delegate the job of retrieving it to a machine if I choose, and I will be doing it whether you like it or not.

Sure, but the question was about legality, not ability. Of course there are ways to reliably circumvent some laws. Some laws are stupid. Sometimes those two intersect. But those serve only to answer questions about indictment risk and whether something should be legal, not whether or not it is.

Re: Show HN: Instagram-scraper – Scrape instagram photos by tags, without API

#26

What is HN’s opinion on the legality of these types of scrapers? Instagram’s robots.txt disallows this kind of scraping, same for their ToS. Legal precedents have been mixed - the recent LinkedIn vs HiQ case is a good signal, but it’s still in appeals court.

A human could scrape it all the same. So if Instagram doesn't want that, they should close the site.

Re: Show HN: Instagram-scraper – Scrape instagram photos by tags, without API

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how using Tor would make your legal case any stronger

It would prevent the legal case from ever taking place, ideally.

The service provider will just block Tor.

Re: Show HN: Instagram-scraper – Scrape instagram photos by tags, without API

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the data is made available to me as a human, then I am free to delegate the job of retrieving it to a machine if I choose, and I will be doing it whether you like it or not.

Sure, but the question was about legality , not ability. Of course there are ways to reliably circumvent some laws. Some laws are stupid. Sometimes those two intersect. But those serve only to answer questions about indictment risk and whether something should be legal, not whether or not it is .

Legal rephrasing: Is there a reason that as a user of a user-agent like Firefox you would be in a legally different position than as a user of this user-agent app?

Re: Show HN: Instagram-scraper – Scrape instagram photos by tags, without API

#29

What is HN’s opinion on the legality of these types of scrapers? Instagram’s robots.txt disallows this kind of scraping, same for their ToS. Legal precedents have been mixed - the recent LinkedIn vs HiQ case is a good signal, but it’s still in appeals court.

I think a more interesting question is HN’s opinion on the morality and ethics of such scrapers, since the law varies between countries and is often twisted by lobby in this field.

Re: Show HN: Instagram-scraper – Scrape instagram photos by tags, without API

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What is HN’s opinion on the legality of these types of scrapers? Instagram’s robots.txt disallows this kind of scraping, same for their ToS. Legal precedents have been mixed - the recent LinkedIn vs HiQ case is a good signal, but it’s still in appeals court.

My opinion is basically that since businesses use machines to target, communicate, and attempt to influence me, they have no right to deny my ability to do the same, unless it harms their service e.g. DDoS.
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