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I’m not sure how I’ve done that. I was asking a question; I’m trying to understand a position that many seem to have (being in favor of illegal immigration) that seems unfathomable to me.
The HN mods seem to have some form of issue with our disagreement and have downvoted and flagged this entire thread.
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The HN mods seem to have some form of issue with our disagreement and have downvoted and flagged this entire thread.
Just an FYI: Members can downvote and flag. Attributing that solely to the mods is inaccurate.
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What exactly are you suggesting? That we simply open up the border?
Please stop using HN for political flamewar.
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Just an FYI: Members can downvote and flag. Attributing that solely to the mods is inaccurate.
Occam's Razor. When the mod steps in at the same time as the entire thread is downvoted and flagged, that's more than a bit suspicious.
So, on your side, you have some fancy term for "inference" to justify your ugly accusation. On my side, I have solid evidence that not all downvotes are from the mods because I know what I did.
So there's that.
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Occam's Razor. When the mod steps in at the same time as the entire thread is downvoted and flagged, that's more than a bit suspicious.
Well, I downvoted your above comment, in part because it unfairly accuses the mods of corruption on no real basis, basically. And I'm not a mod. So, on your side, you have some fancy term for "inference" to justify your ugly accusation. On my side, I have solid evidence that not all downvotes are from the mods because I know what I did. So there's that.
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You crossed into personal attack and incivility in this thread. Please don't, regardless of how wrong someone else is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Where was my personal attack and incivility? Myself and downandout completely disagree but neither of us where uncivil or attacking each other. I chose to stop responding before it became a flame war, I have no idea why you would go through this thread, and downvote and flag both of us. What are you talking about?
As we tell everyone, please post civilly and substantively, or not at all. It isn't hard, but it requires wanting to use the site as intended.
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Where was my personal attack and incivility? Myself and downandout completely disagree but neither of us where uncivil or attacking each other. I chose to stop responding before it became a flame war, I have no idea why you would go through this thread, and downvote and flag both of us. What are you talking about?
Well, for starters, "So yeah, everything you disagree with doesn't count. Thanks for wasting my time." is entirely uncivil by HN standards. So are "Grow up", "arguing with you is just a waste of time", and other things you've posted. Also, these comments are lacking in information other than that you're irritated, so they're unsubstantive in addition to uncivil. As we tell everyone, please post civilly and substantiv…
Jesus fucking christ. Just fucking delete my account, you people are fucking despicable.
Could someone help me understand the issue with this whole thing? If you show up to commit a crime with your children in tow, you are going to wind up separated from them while you go to jail for that crime. That is as true for illegal entry as it is for bank robbery. Why does the Valley feel that it's OK for immigration laws to be violated? Even very liberal countries around the world tend to be tough on illegal imm…
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Nothing in my comment prompts your question, I don't even come close to denying that misdemeanors are crimes. My point is that bloviating about law and order when the crime is minor and the danger (in many cases) is real, is pathetic. It'd be less pathetic to make it clear that you think that babies should be taken away from mothers that have merely crossed the border away from an official port of entry.
It'd be less pathetic to make it clear that you think that babies should be taken away from mothers that have merely crossed the border away from an official port of entry. When did I say that? I just think that mothers shouldn’t be bringing their babies to illegally enter the country in the first place.
1. Incarcerates people for the victimless “crime” of taking drugs
2. Takes away their kids and sticks them in foster homes or worse
3. Enriches drug gangs in Mexico thru criminalizing their competition in the US
4. Catches families trying to escape the gangs by coming to the US for asylum
5. Punishes the kids for yet another victimless crime of crossing the US border
I would like to ask the Christian child-loving, Bible-following voters:
Is America great yet?