Sleep Scientist Warns Against Walking Through Life 'In an Underslept State'

Post by coldseattle » Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 7:24 PM UTC

wenc wrote: post #101

Tharkun wrote: post #86

You can be in an "underslept state" even if you get 8 hrs a night. I usually am. I snore. Most of the time and very loudly. So do maybe a billion other people. It negatively impacts the quality and quantity of your sleep (and that of the people around you). It can greatly increase the risk of a whole slew of nasty diseases. And yet there is no cure and no effective treatment. As near as I can tell, no one is working…

I suffered from obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) and snoring, and the two things that helped were sleeping on my side and weight loss. The latter was difficult to achieve but was the most high-leverage thing I ever did. I had no idea at the time, but my OSA was contributing to a slew of health problems like hypertension etc., and when I removed the cause, my overall health got better.

Post by abootstrapper » Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

cwe wrote: post #117

Has no one mentioned parenthood forcing sleep deprivation for 1-3+ years?

Post by glenstein » Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 7:44 PM UTC

gonehome wrote: post #62

coldtea wrote: post #3

> Sleep is not like the bank, so you can't accumulate a debt and then try and pay it off at a later point in time. And the reason is this: We know that if I were to deprive you of sleep for an entire night — take away eight hours — and then in the subsequent night I give you all of the sleep that you want, however much you wish to consume, you never get back all that you lost. You will sleep longer, but you will neve…

Yeah this quote sounds like something that someone would say when they don’t actually understand the underlying system. It doesn’t follow that if you miss eight hours of sleep you’d need 16 to catch up - maybe some processes take a standard amount of time and don’t need to be repeated, it might be more efficient when you’re already asleep to fix things in an extra two hours than an entire extra eight. Something is fi…

Post by graeme » Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 8:11 PM UTC

cfmcdonald wrote: post #107

lithos wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course they are. You'll learn less in your sleep deprived states, Which are days you aren't going to get back. Your sleep deprived self will also be better at creating tech debt, which takes away time from the future.

That is an odd perspective. That's like saying that the damage from a twisted ankle is permanent, since you'll never get back the two days of lost activity. From that point of view, all injuries are permanent.

Post by gms7777 » Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 8:14 PM UTC

Reason077 wrote: post #77

In the UK we have a fantastic service called Radio 4 which has remarkable sleep-inducing powers. Much better than any narcotic sleep aid, in my experience. Podcasts also work well, in my experience.