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Sleep Scientist Warns Against Walking Through Life 'In an Underslept State'

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This is unrelated to the article but I love that npr.org allows opting out of tracking and in exchange for a plain text version of the site. I’ll happily give up eye candy for privacy and I’m sure it’s much cheaper for them to serve bandwidth wise.

Do you get to the article you were linked to? Because I‘m always redirected to their front page, with no way to get to the article that was linked.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never understood how this could be the case, evolutionarily speaking. Even in the absence of electrical light, there is rarely complete darkness. Did our remote ancestors just sleep extremely poorly whenever there was a lot of moonlight?

Our ancestor's sleep might not have been optimal due to the fact we had other things to care about, like shelter. But that does not imply there is nothing to gain from feeling perfectly rested.

Yeah it's sometimes hard to understand that evolution is not a perfection machine, it's not survival of the fittest, and it does not select the "best" outcome and discard the second best. It's survival of the least unfit, and it selects any option that doesn't cause the individual to die before reproducing. Just because our ancestors did something and nature didn't punish them with death because of it does not mean it's the optimal way to go about life. It merely means that doing that thing didn't cause our ancestor to die before their kids were born. Evolution doesn't select for perfection, just reproduction.

Same argument when someone says "when I was a kid we did X and we lived". Doesn't mean sleeping on the back dashboard of the car on the freeway is a good idea, just that you in particular did not die from doing so.

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I'm no expert but I thought that the whole 8 hour a night thing was not true, at least not for everyone. If I force myself to get 8 hours of sleep, by forcing myself to stay in bed after I wake up, I get a headache. If I let myself wake up on its own without an alarm, it averages around 6.5 hours. If I get below that, then at some point I will sleep more than the 6.5 hours, and maybe even 8 hours. So from personal ex…

The author mentions in the book, it is as rare as being hit by a lightning to find a person who needs less than 8 hours of sleep.

I used to feel the same way before reading this book that I need only 6 hours of sleep. I was wrong. I started eating healthy and getting exercise (cardio) regularly - Bam, now I need more than 8 hours of sleep and my sleep quality improved tremendously.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried thc? My wife has sleeping problems and thc really helps her a lot.

No, I've never really used any recreational drug, including alcohol. I don't mean to sound judgmental, but for me personally the long-term effects of THC aren't understood well enough for me to try it yet. If you don't mind me asking, does your wife have to take it on a consistent (ie nightly) basis to sleep well? Maybe when I'm older with less to lose I'll experiment more and see if things like that work.

I think you're overthinking it. It's not really "recreational" when it can help your quality of life significantly.

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post #43

We have had industrial shift hours for nearly two centuries, and before that in the Army and Navy. Yet large organizations are still implementing new shift/watch schedules to (or sometimes purportedly to) improve health and alertness based on scientific results. https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2016/10/28/this-lif... What is the problem with science here? Without being an expert it seems like there are three…

4) No one gives a shit about the long term health effects.

There are lots of pieces of knowledge that have obvious practical implications that aren’t acted upon because it’s inconvenient and the function of a system is different from what people say it’s for. School is more childcare than education and using the same buses for elementary and high school is cheaper so all high school students are sleep deprived and learn less than they would if they could get up at a natural hour. Psychological research on learning like the forgetting curve that works is ignored while crap like learning styles comes and goes in fads. Direct instruction works wonderfully but is boring to teach so it isn’t adopted anywhere.

School isn’t about learning. Politics isn’t about policy. Healthcare isn’t about health.

The purpose of a thing is what it does, not what someone says it’s for.

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post #48

This is unrelated to the article but I love that npr.org allows opting out of tracking and in exchange for a plain text version of the site. I’ll happily give up eye candy for privacy and I’m sure it’s much cheaper for them to serve bandwidth wise.

Tried that, and the "text only" version had no relevant text. It's not just eye candy we give up for privacy, it's the entire content. GDPR might have a say about that.

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> Sleep is not like the bank, so you can't accumulate a debt and then try and pay it off at a later point in time. And the reason is this: We know that if I were to deprive you of sleep for an entire night — take away eight hours — and then in the subsequent night I give you all of the sleep that you want, however much you wish to consume, you never get back all that you lost. You will sleep longer, but you will neve…

If you lose a piece of an old memory from sleep deprivation, you are not going to magically get it back once you catch up on your sleep. It has happened to me when I pulled all-nighters. I just couldn't remember that friend's name or that old password.

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post #51
post #48

This is unrelated to the article but I love that npr.org allows opting out of tracking and in exchange for a plain text version of the site. I’ll happily give up eye candy for privacy and I’m sure it’s much cheaper for them to serve bandwidth wise.

Do you get to the article you were linked to? Because I‘m always redirected to their front page, with no way to get to the article that was linked.

Hmm, no I spoke too soon! Sorry, I can’t reach it either.

Even tried editing the article URL to no avail. :(

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Apart from quantity, quality of sleep is also important. I just realized how much a little light can disturb sleep. My blinds are opaque but hung 1-2 cm from the window frame, letting in just a few unwanted photons. I temporarily taped the blinds to the frame, leaving the room in almost complete darkness. I haven't felt this rested in years. Do try this at home!

Easier yet, use any opaque dark cloth (bath towel, handkerchief, etc.) and drape it over your eyes so that all light is extinguished.

I take a nap every afternoon preferably at 1:15 p.m.. I waken 20 minutes later, refreshed and ready for the rest of the day.

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