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Sleep Scientist Warns Against Walking Through Life 'In an Underslept State'

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>Sleep is not like the bank, so you can't accumulate a debt and then try and pay it off at a later point in time. And the reason is this: We know that if I were to deprive you of sleep for an entire night — take away eight hours — and then in the subsequent night I give you all of the sleep that you want, however much you wish to consume, you never get back all that you lost. You will sleep longer, but you will never achieve that full eight-hour repayment, as it were. So the brain has no capacity to get back that lost sleep that you've been lumbering it with during the week in terms of a debt.

What does "never" here means though? Obviously you could get back to your normal self after a few days of sleeping well, no?

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I'm currently in my 20s and I've been a type 1 chronic insomniac my whole life. Physically, I'm healthy and fit and I have been my whole life, but mentally my mind feels slower and foggier than my peers and I struggled through high school and college because of it. I know this might sound morbid, but I am fully expecting to die early despite doing everything in my power to live a healthy, balanced lifestyle. I can't see getting 2-3 hours of sleep a night with all-nighters ~once a week being sustainable as I age and I wouldn't be surprised if my brain has already deteriorated in function significantly.

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> Sleep is not like the bank, so you can't accumulate a debt and then try and pay it off at a later point in time. And the reason is this: We know that if I were to deprive you of sleep for an entire night — take away eight hours — and then in the subsequent night I give you all of the sleep that you want, however much you wish to consume, you never get back all that you lost. You will sleep longer, but you will neve…

Yeah this is one of those oft repeated pieces of advice that has never made sense to me. It's always worded such that it sounds like the effects of any sleep deprivation ever are permanent.

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What can I do? Should I forward this to my employer?

No, unless you live to work, you should demand your right to a balanced life without having to point to scientific literature on the benefits of sleep.

Even if it wasn't stolen sleep (say we needed no sleep, and the day had only 16 hours), constantly overworking would still be lost time (with family and friends and me-time) that you would never recover.

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> Sleep is not like the bank, so you can't accumulate a debt and then try and pay it off at a later point in time. And the reason is this: We know that if I were to deprive you of sleep for an entire night — take away eight hours — and then in the subsequent night I give you all of the sleep that you want, however much you wish to consume, you never get back all that you lost. You will sleep longer, but you will neve…

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Re: Sleep Scientist Warns Against Walking Through Life 'In an Underslept State'

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Book sales aside, the point about the brain being an associative device, and the advice to avoid lying in bed awake & instead going to another room until you're sleepier, is really valuable imho. Entrainment is very real and happens rapidly, and this advice is not given often enough.
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