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New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Post by zeth___ »

influx wrote: post #6
rando444 wrote: post #4

While I won't justify anything this person allegedly did.. it seems open to speculation whether the child pornography stuff was actually legitimate, or some sort of targeted attack. (whether to destroy his character/career or keep him under judicial watch / within the country)

I read the IRC logs, and I'm skeptical that anyone not deeply versed in the lingo, tone, and character of that scene could fake them. It's not impossible, but it was pretty convincing to me.

So you're saying you're "deeply versed in the lingo, tone, and character of that scene"?

Reminds me of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI

Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Post by heartbreak »

mr_overalls wrote: post #22
anonymous5133 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look up five eye agreement. Different governments often work with each other to catch people. You help me out and ill help you out type of stuff.

You might be right about some Swedish quid pro quo here, but Sweden is actually not a member of Five Eyes.

I think FVEY was used as an example of collaboration, not because the poster thought Sweden was part of it.

Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Post by zeth___ »

wyldfire wrote: post #8
jscipione wrote: post #7

"Government investigators suspect that he provided WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization, with a stolen archive of documents detailing the C.I.A.’s hacking operations, but they had not initially charged him in that crime." Wikileaks is a news organization, not an anti-secrecy organization who's First Amendment Right to Freedom of the Press has been illegally infringed upon by the US Government.

Or option C: a propaganda arm of the Russian Government. EDIT: downvoters aren't offering a response, so I'll just hope or assume that they want evidence: [1] https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/07/putin-dismisses... [3] http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.771716 [4] http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/25/politics/cambridge-analyti... [5] https://sunli…

Dear god this thread is being hit hard by people pushing the US government narrative. I'm not saying you're all paid trolls, but HN is to the tech scene what reddit was 10 years ago which is when we first saw shilling hit it hard and fast.

Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Post by saas_co_de »

salimmadjd wrote: post #5

Mr. Schulte had been charged last year in New York with possession of child pornography Very interesting! It almost seems like the pornography charges against him was a way to punish him but without prosecuting him for the actual leakage. Perhaps the government wanted to still point the fingers at someone else or avoid embarrassment?

"In or about 2016" ... sounds like some pretty solid evidence they have there.

Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Post by zeth___ »

colordrops wrote: post #54
alpha_squared wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can tell the truth and still be deceitful. Claiming to have had evidence on Russian corruption and publicly declaring an intent to release followed by silence and unwillingness to do so indicate two things, to me anyway. 1. The original claim is a lie. There is no evidence of Russian corruption and the claim was made for attention or some other purpose. Remind me, again, how many lies it takes to make someone unt…

By that measure, the New York Times, Fox News, Washington Post, CNN, and Wall Street Journal are all propaganda.

You see there was that little thing called the Iraq war.

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Post by zeth___ »

mikec3010 wrote: post #67
Cacti wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The indictment goes into some detail on this: https://www.scribd.com/document/379346745/Joshua-Adam-Schult... The guy is clearly guilty.

I arrive at the opposite conclusion from reading that. Someone smart enough to work in black hat security should know how fucking illegal CP is, how aggressively its investigated, and know not to flagrantly talk about it on an irc channel and host it to randos online. At the very least they would use tor and figure it out for themselves.

Speaking as someone who lived in a place that would boil dissidents alive in the 00's: That's the most beautiful part of this.

If you know anything about downloading hugely illegal material you will keep your mouth shut because the claims there are completely laughable, but you don't want to admit you've been downloading hugely illegal material that would get you jailed/killed.

To the average person it sounds reasonable because they are an idiot.

To anyone with half a brain even downloading the pdf without doing it through tor, copying it to an air gapped machine, and reading it there is such a huge breach of security you wouldn't be out of prison if you ever did it.

Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Post by chiefalchemist »

wpdev_63 wrote: post #68
Cacti wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should read the indictment. That porn was not planted. https://www.scribd.com/document/379346745/Joshua-Adam-Schult...

If you really think the guy who leaked highly classified CIA documents that reveals their means of mass surveillance happened to also be a pedophile then you are one naive person. Do yourself a favor and never watch 24-hour news programs.

Believing he was is believable. But it's only a symptom.

Believing the intelligence community never bends the rules is the problem. That belief is the root disease.

Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Post by Cacti »

zeth___ wrote: post #84
wyldfire wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or option C: a propaganda arm of the Russian Government. EDIT: downvoters aren't offering a response, so I'll just hope or assume that they want evidence: [1] https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/07/putin-dismisses... [3] http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.771716 [4] http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/25/politics/cambridge-analyti... [5] https://sunli…

Dear god this thread is being hit hard by people pushing the US government narrative. I'm not saying you're all paid trolls, but HN is to the tech scene what reddit was 10 years ago which is when we first saw shilling hit it hard and fast.

Look in the mirror, man. You're accusing people, without a shred of evidence, of being government shills simply because you disagree with them.
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