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New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Mr. Schulte had been charged last year in New York with possession of child pornography Very interesting! It almost seems like the pornography charges against him was a way to punish him but without prosecuting him for the actual leakage. Perhaps the government wanted to still point the fingers at someone else or avoid embarrassment?

And you can color me skeptical of any evidence that the government provided in that case.

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#22
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Just look at how they were trying to bag assange with rape charges back when he was on the run. Those charges were Swedish.

Look up five eye agreement. Different governments often work with each other to catch people. You help me out and ill help you out type of stuff.

You might be right about some Swedish quid pro quo here, but Sweden is actually not a member of Five Eyes.

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#23
post #8

"Government investigators suspect that he provided WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization, with a stolen archive of documents detailing the C.I.A.’s hacking operations, but they had not initially charged him in that crime." Wikileaks is a news organization, not an anti-secrecy organization who's First Amendment Right to Freedom of the Press has been illegally infringed upon by the US Government.

Or option C: a propaganda arm of the Russian Government. EDIT: downvoters aren't offering a response, so I'll just hope or assume that they want evidence: [1] https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/07/putin-dismisses... [3] http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.771716 [4] http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/25/politics/cambridge-analyti... [5] https://sunli…

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#24
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Just look at how they were trying to bag assange with rape charges back when he was on the run. Those charges were Swedish.

Look up five eye agreement. Different governments often work with each other to catch people. You help me out and ill help you out type of stuff.

Sweden is a member of the Fourteen Eyes, not Five Eyes.

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#25

"Government investigators suspect that he provided WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization, with a stolen archive of documents detailing the C.I.A.’s hacking operations, but they had not initially charged him in that crime." Wikileaks is a news organization, not an anti-secrecy organization who's First Amendment Right to Freedom of the Press has been illegally infringed upon by the US Government.

They don't actually publish news articles like the NYTimes though right? anti-secrecy seems to be a part of what wikileaks does but I'm not sure that would be an appropriate name either.

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#26
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the IRC logs, and I'm skeptical that anyone not deeply versed in the lingo, tone, and character of that scene could fake them. It's not impossible, but it was pretty convincing to me.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but ISTM the question isn't really whether the logs are of a genuine conversation about CP, but rather whether the accused really was a part of that conversation? After all, if he really took part in a conversation about procuring such material, it wouldn't have mattered if he talked like a newb. Likewise, if he wasn't in on it, it doesn't matter that everyone who was in on it got "t…

Read the transcript and decide for yourself, I'm referring strictly to how I've seen people speak on IRC. Warning, there is disturbing text in there.

https://dd80b675424c132b90b3-e48385e382d2e5d17821a5e1d8e4c86...

Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

#27

Mr. Schulte had been charged last year in New York with possession of child pornography Very interesting! It almost seems like the pornography charges against him was a way to punish him but without prosecuting him for the actual leakage. Perhaps the government wanted to still point the fingers at someone else or avoid embarrassment?

You should read the indictment. That porn was not planted.

https://www.scribd.com/document/379346745/Joshua-Adam-Schult...

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#28
post #8

"Government investigators suspect that he provided WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization, with a stolen archive of documents detailing the C.I.A.’s hacking operations, but they had not initially charged him in that crime." Wikileaks is a news organization, not an anti-secrecy organization who's First Amendment Right to Freedom of the Press has been illegally infringed upon by the US Government.

Or option C: a propaganda arm of the Russian Government. EDIT: downvoters aren't offering a response, so I'll just hope or assume that they want evidence: [1] https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/07/putin-dismisses... [3] http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.771716 [4] http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/25/politics/cambridge-analyti... [5] https://sunli…

Do you mind enlightening us how Wikileaks was a propaganda arm of the Russian government when they released video of US war crimes (murder of journalists in the Collateral Murder video)?

If another news organization received the DNC leaks and chose to not publish them, do you think that would have been ethical?

Is your position that, one cannot be a US citizen and oppose the US government and if you do you're a Russian agent?

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#29
post #4

While I won't justify anything this person allegedly did.. it seems open to speculation whether the child pornography stuff was actually legitimate, or some sort of targeted attack. (whether to destroy his character/career or keep him under judicial watch / within the country)

You can read the indictment for yourself: https://www.scribd.com/document/379346745/Joshua-Adam-Schult...

It's pretty convincing.

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#30
post #9

> Mr. Schulte had been charged last year in New York with possession of child pornography. The fact that they found child porn on his computer is the scariest part. Almost any technical person could frame almost anyone else with CP possession. It's just a matter of putting some files on a computer and/or faking some logs, browser history, etc. It would be incredibly trivial for the CIA to put CP on his computer and t…

The indictment goes into some detail on this: https://www.scribd.com/document/379346745/Joshua-Adam-Schult...

The guy is clearly guilty.

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