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Quant Hedge Fund D.E. Shaw Fires 150; 10% of staff

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Re: Quant Hedge Fund D.E. Shaw Fires 150; 10% of staff

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How much staff is really really needed for these quant shops? After an algorithm is developed isn't it just rinse/repeat? Honest question, as I'm not a finance guy.

Just like a technical firm needs to iterate on the products and infrastructures. A trading firm needs to iterate on the algorithms and infrastructures to stay competitive.

Market changes constantly. Many trading algorithms are essentially market-data driven and need to adapt to the market or lose.

Re: Quant Hedge Fund D.E. Shaw Fires 150; 10% of staff

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How much staff is really really needed for these quant shops? After an algorithm is developed isn't it just rinse/repeat? Honest question, as I'm not a finance guy.

The effective lifetime of a trading algorithm is only weeks. They need to keep iterating to remain competitive.

Re: Quant Hedge Fund D.E. Shaw Fires 150; 10% of staff

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This is sad. Founded by a computer scientist, DE Shaw is perhaps the most tech-focused among hedge funds. I once had a very challenging technical job interview there. Several interviewers had PhD in Computer Science.

Yeah. At my interview, I had the guy who wrote the O'Reilly OpenSSH book asking me to derive Fermat's little theorem. Fun times ...

IIRC, even the HR person I spoke to had a PhD (russian literature, I think).

They are a very impressive firm, and I hope they recover from their recent misfortunes.

Re: Quant Hedge Fund D.E. Shaw Fires 150; 10% of staff

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post #4

This is sad. Founded by a computer scientist, DE Shaw is perhaps the most tech-focused among hedge funds. I once had a very challenging technical job interview there. Several interviewers had PhD in Computer Science.

Yeah. At my interview, I had the guy who wrote the O'Reilly OpenSSH book asking me to derive Fermat's little theorem. Fun times ... IIRC, even the HR person I spoke to had a PhD (russian literature, I think). They are a very impressive firm, and I hope they recover from their recent misfortunes.

As pg mentioned above it is better to channel this talent to startup world :)

Re: Quant Hedge Fund D.E. Shaw Fires 150; 10% of staff

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This is sad. Founded by a computer scientist, DE Shaw is perhaps the most tech-focused among hedge funds. I once had a very challenging technical job interview there. Several interviewers had PhD in Computer Science.

I avoided going to a tech interview there, because I knew they'd never have me no matter how sharp my Unix chops are.

No degree.

But I was laughing a couple months later when I was working across the hall at Akamai ...

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