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Inside a Heist of American Chip Designs, as China Bids for Tech Power

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Re: Inside a Heist of American Chip Designs, as China Bids for Tech Power

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Having worked in China in the semiconductor industry, it really saddens me what the Chinese are trying to do. You simply cannot out innovate 4 decades of work in a few years no matter how much money you throw at it.

Also, China has a branding problem and it is only going to get worse. They can make short term progress but it takes a long time to build a great brand.

Re: Inside a Heist of American Chip Designs, as China Bids for Tech Power

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DOD would have way more cost effective spending ditching the F-35 flying turkey and buying the IP for TSMC, and moving US fab to Virginia/Austin.

But that takes more than 3 years. So not an option for Trump. Tariffs are instant.

Re: Inside a Heist of American Chip Designs, as China Bids for Tech Power

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Having worked in China in the semiconductor industry, it really saddens me what the Chinese are trying to do. You simply cannot out innovate 4 decades of work in a few years no matter how much money you throw at it. Also, China has a branding problem and it is only going to get worse. They can make short term progress but it takes a long time to build a great brand.

Stealing IP mostly helps manufacturing, It doesn't really help innovation. If they want to build up their semiconductor industry they need to steal the people who are creating IP, which is kinda the opposite of what is happening.

the culture that creates new tech is something that china can't steal and it can't replicate it without giving up authoritarian rule.

Re: Inside a Heist of American Chip Designs, as China Bids for Tech Power

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Having worked in China in the semiconductor industry, it really saddens me what the Chinese are trying to do. You simply cannot out innovate 4 decades of work in a few years no matter how much money you throw at it. Also, China has a branding problem and it is only going to get worse. They can make short term progress but it takes a long time to build a great brand.

Stealing IP mostly helps manufacturing, It doesn't really help innovation. If they want to build up their semiconductor industry they need to steal the people who are creating IP, which is kinda the opposite of what is happening. the culture that creates new tech is something that china can't steal and it can't replicate it without giving up authoritarian rule.

People write this glibly without understanding history. Soviet Russia made great leaps in science and technology where it was a national priority. You can have academic freedom in most scientific disciplines without the political freedom to criticize the government.

Re: Inside a Heist of American Chip Designs, as China Bids for Tech Power

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Corporate and national espionage are as old as time, and senior leadership needs to wise up to this threat. China is running the most broad and sophisticated IP espionage campaign in history, and most companies think a 15m PowerPoint about not responding to phishing emails is sufficient protection against this. Until we get some strong legislation on corporate data security, this is just going to keep happening.

Re: Inside a Heist of American Chip Designs, as China Bids for Tech Power

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stealing IP mostly helps manufacturing, It doesn't really help innovation. If they want to build up their semiconductor industry they need to steal the people who are creating IP, which is kinda the opposite of what is happening. the culture that creates new tech is something that china can't steal and it can't replicate it without giving up authoritarian rule.

People write this glibly without understanding history. Soviet Russia made great leaps in science and technology where it was a national priority. You can have academic freedom in most scientific disciplines without the political freedom to criticize the government.

Have any examples? As far as I am aware, the USSR only beat USA at getting into space first.

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stealing IP mostly helps manufacturing, It doesn't really help innovation. If they want to build up their semiconductor industry they need to steal the people who are creating IP, which is kinda the opposite of what is happening. the culture that creates new tech is something that china can't steal and it can't replicate it without giving up authoritarian rule.

People write this glibly without understanding history. Soviet Russia made great leaps in science and technology where it was a national priority. You can have academic freedom in most scientific disciplines without the political freedom to criticize the government.

There is a good book Stalin and the Soviet Science Wars about this.

Imagine the dilemma: you are a nuclear physicist and Lenin says that atoms are indivisible. What do you do? (This really happened)

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