Can anyone explain what's their "air gap" technology, please?
Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts
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Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you contribute to open source software then you’re contributing to military projects.
I'm not quite sure why this is downvoted, although I understand the nuance, it seems an interesting and related point. Out of interest, are there open source licenses that prevent use in military projects? ISTR reading something recently about it being legally questionable to discriminate between who can accept a license, but that was in the context of allowing open source for non-commercial purposes.
Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts
#93One thing I find strange about this is why Google is so keen to get this government business in the first place. They’re amazingly profitable already, one of the most successful companies of all time; is defense work really something that could become another major revenue stream? Given the obvious conflicts with their company culture (obvious to rank and file employees, anyway) it doesn’t seem like a very appealing…
Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts
#94So, looks like it's not some bad feature. It's just because it's for the military. It's unacceptable to contribute to the military. And ICE. And police. And any law enforcement at all. What's next? Licenses refusing use of software to political opponents? Firing people because they have wrong political opinions? Oops, that's already been done. Refusing to work on software which is being used by companies that didn't…
Slippery slope fallacy.
Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you contribute to open source software then you’re contributing to military projects.
I'm not quite sure why this is downvoted, although I understand the nuance, it seems an interesting and related point. Out of interest, are there open source licenses that prevent use in military projects? ISTR reading something recently about it being legally questionable to discriminate between who can accept a license, but that was in the context of allowing open source for non-commercial purposes.
Creative Commons NonCommercial licenses, for example, are neither Open Source nor Free Software licenses.
Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts
#96Every company I apply to is told during the interview process that I will not work on military projects, and that I would probably leave the company if they chose to take on a military contract. If you have personal moral limits and you’re upfront about them then no-one is the worse off; I’ve yet to be turned down for a job over it and, somewhat the opposite, companies seem to appreciate frankness.
Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts
#97Every company I apply to is told during the interview process that I will not work on military projects, and that I would probably leave the company if they chose to take on a military contract. If you have personal moral limits and you’re upfront about them then no-one is the worse off; I’ve yet to be turned down for a job over it and, somewhat the opposite, companies seem to appreciate frankness.
I don’t think you realize the security of our country has been built by hundreds of thousands of mechanical and electrical engineers, computer scientists, and physicists. Sure, working on military contracts may include uncomfortable problem spaces. But is it morally wrong to work on contracts that ultimately protect American lives?
[citations needed]. I've not been aware of any war on US soil.
Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you contribute to open source software then you’re contributing to military projects.
I'm not quite sure why this is downvoted, although I understand the nuance, it seems an interesting and related point. Out of interest, are there open source licenses that prevent use in military projects? ISTR reading something recently about it being legally questionable to discriminate between who can accept a license, but that was in the context of allowing open source for non-commercial purposes.
Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you contribute to open source software then you’re contributing to military projects.
God dammit, I knew my open source game framework was going to be used for nefarious purposes, how could I have been so short sighted?
Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think you realize the security of our country has been built by hundreds of thousands of mechanical and electrical engineers, computer scientists, and physicists. Sure, working on military contracts may include uncomfortable problem spaces. But is it morally wrong to work on contracts that ultimately protect American lives?
Do you sincerely believe that us dropping bombs in the middle east is "protecting American lives"? If anything, it's spawned a whole generation of terrorists who hate the US for destroying their country. The best way to protect Americans would be for our country to get out of expensive, overseas wars and invest that money in healthcare and ending the drug war, things that actually kill Americans in large numbers.