Isn't it hard to define the accuracy without knowing more about the condition?
First physiological test for autism proves high accuracy in second trial
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Re: First physiological test for autism proves high accuracy in second trial
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The difference in thinking is magnificent How do you know this, having not experienced neurotypical thinking?
Its obvious, based on interactions with others, asking how they think and its well documented in research
To play Devil's Advocate though - confirmation bias is a funny thing, and self-diagnosis is too.
Not saying you or OP are wrong, and I believe the non-neurotypical thing, but these topics are ones where nearly everyone who says they are on the spectrum appear to be 100% vehemently sure they are, but not 100% of those people are correct.
Re: First physiological test for autism proves high accuracy in second trial
#83This is quite interesting. Being on the spectrum myself, and many of my friends being so as well, it is very important how different everyone on the spectrum truly is. For high functioning people like myself I see Autism more akin to a mental super-power that can be crippled by small things. The difference in thinking is magnificent, and it aids in my success in most things that I do, but is an absolute disaster when…
my son ( 7 ) is like this, his brain lets him do interesting things, like from early on, you could hand him some paper and ask him to write things, then you could rotate the paper any way you like and he'd just carry on writing so it was fine when rotated back to normal. But he has a ton of trouble with socializing and has never made a friend, he is also a super realist. He doesn't like to pretend to be anything but himself. "If you could be an animal what animal woruld you be? - Human Boy". Any suggestion to pretend to be something else tends to be met with a reaction of "why on earth would I want to be anything but who I am". Or even if you over emphasise something like "Wow Ethan,you are super awesome" "no... I'm not awesome, I'm just normal"
Re: First physiological test for autism proves high accuracy in second trial
#84Does this also work in reverse? I.e. take supplements/drugs until the test is negative, and then be (temporarily) autism-free?
If you mean it in the sense that one could cheat the results and not be diagnosed, then absolutely. Most of their metabolites could linked to dietary deficiency. We did have a metabolite panel done and my kid would have been a false negative.
As a parent of kid with Autism I experienced it first hand. However, instead of doing like many parents (including those with neurotypicals) we did not cave-in, but build a lot of incentive and rewards and it paid off very early. But this is my n=1, so I don't know if it is because of our parenting style or something else.
Re: First physiological test for autism proves high accuracy in second trial
#85Isn't it hard to define the accuracy without knowing more about the condition?
The generally accepted definition of autism spectrum disorder is that in DSM-V. This physiological test is compared against ASD diagnoses based on DSM-V, and based on that comparison, the accuracy of the test (for the given sample tested) is calculated.
As more is known about the condition, the diagnostic criteria listed in the DSM could be updated, which would mean that this test would then need to be evaluated again. But that doesn't prevent its current accuracy being measured.
Re: First physiological test for autism proves high accuracy in second trial
#86This is quite interesting. Being on the spectrum myself, and many of my friends being so as well, it is very important how different everyone on the spectrum truly is. For high functioning people like myself I see Autism more akin to a mental super-power that can be crippled by small things. The difference in thinking is magnificent, and it aids in my success in most things that I do, but is an absolute disaster when…
This is a side note to your insightful comment, but is your heart rate 100 at rest, or is 100 the normal number you see under the elevated stress of seeing a doctor? I ask because 100 resting heart rate is really not healthy for most people. Diet and exercise can really bring it down for you. Mine used to be 95 at rest. Today is in the low 60s and dropping over over time thanks to a restricted diet and moderate exercise (5h a week). I don't know your individual situation and hope you didn't find my comment to be inopportune unsolicited advice.
Re: First physiological test for autism proves high accuracy in second trial
#87This is quite interesting. Being on the spectrum myself, and many of my friends being so as well, it is very important how different everyone on the spectrum truly is. For high functioning people like myself I see Autism more akin to a mental super-power that can be crippled by small things. The difference in thinking is magnificent, and it aids in my success in most things that I do, but is an absolute disaster when…
Having high blood pressure only when visiting the doctor is common enough it has a name and a Wikipedia page and has been the subject of clinical studies.
Re: First physiological test for autism proves high accuracy in second trial
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Be careful about that kind of wording. Those of us with loved ones who have severe autism consider it a "mental disorder" and not simply a psychological difference. We'd really love for all of the "neurodivergent" people to have their own diagnosis.
Thanks, but I care more about what a person with autism says than somebody who simply knows one.
Many people with autism don't have enough communication skills to do that.
Re: First physiological test for autism proves high accuracy in second trial
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Be careful about that kind of wording. I and friends who're on the spectrum don't consider it a "mental disorder". It's simply a physiological difference, one that theoretically can be tested for.
If it's not affecting you in a negative way then it's not a disorder. If it is then it can be. If it doesn't have serious negative impacts then you're just non-neurotypical which is fine. People have the same opinions around ADHD but when you need accommodation or treatment it's worth classifying it as something that needs some level of accommodation or treatment.
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Re: First physiological test for autism proves high accuracy in second trial
#90This is quite interesting. Being on the spectrum myself, and many of my friends being so as well, it is very important how different everyone on the spectrum truly is. For high functioning people like myself I see Autism more akin to a mental super-power that can be crippled by small things. The difference in thinking is magnificent, and it aids in my success in most things that I do, but is an absolute disaster when…
This is a side note to your insightful comment, but is your heart rate 100 at rest, or is 100 the normal number you see under the elevated stress of seeing a doctor? I ask because 100 resting heart rate is really not healthy for most people. Diet and exercise can really bring it down for you. Mine used to be 95 at rest. Today is in the low 60s and dropping over over time thanks to a restricted diet and moderate exerc…
Just at the doctor, I have a heart monitor for when I stream games for friends to see when I become the most stressed. When I pay attention I normally rest at around 70-85.
I absolutely appreciate the insight and comment. I had feared that the time I saw 120 twice in a row at a doctors visit, so I started measuring it at home.