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Musk emails alleged Tesla saboteur, 'You're a horrible human being'

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Re: Musk emails alleged Tesla saboteur, 'You're a horrible human being'

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Not a lawyer. However, isn't the usual advice, specially for CEOs, to keep quiet and not engage in any way? From a legal and PR perspective.

In any case, I find this to be refreshing. Enough with the sterile press releases drafted by lawyers.

Re: Musk emails alleged Tesla saboteur, 'You're a horrible human being'

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Here are some moral judgements against Elon:

* shopped around US cities to bargain for the most corporate welfare tax breaks for his gigafactory, effectively shoveling the taxburden onto the residents.

* promised so many new jobs to Reno for the gigafactory, but most of the construction contracts were given to out of state construction firms.

* uses "third party" contractor loopholes to separate workers from the company so they can be easily over worked (12 hour shifts) then discarded

* same is true for the tesla factory in CA.

* overworks the engineers at SpaceX and throws them away if they don't work 7 days a week.

* started paypal, whose profits derive from circumventing banking laws by claiming not to be a bank, whose reputation for stealing/freezing money is unsurpassed by anyone except criminal enterprise.

So I'm sorry bud. I don't have any sympathy because some guy copied your files. In fact this is likely just a publicity stunt.

Re: Musk emails alleged Tesla saboteur, 'You're a horrible human being'

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Here are some moral judgements against Elon: * shopped around US cities to bargain for the most corporate welfare tax breaks for his gigafactory, effectively shoveling the taxburden onto the residents. * promised so many new jobs to Reno for the gigafactory, but most of the construction contracts were given to out of state construction firms. * uses "third party" contractor loopholes to separate workers from the comp…

For the tax cuts, that's on the local government. They set the rates to attract businesses and that's what they got. Residents should blame their representatives.

Re: Musk emails alleged Tesla saboteur, 'You're a horrible human being'

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post #5

Here are some moral judgements against Elon: * shopped around US cities to bargain for the most corporate welfare tax breaks for his gigafactory, effectively shoveling the taxburden onto the residents. * promised so many new jobs to Reno for the gigafactory, but most of the construction contracts were given to out of state construction firms. * uses "third party" contractor loopholes to separate workers from the comp…

For the tax cuts, that's on the local government. They set the rates to attract businesses and that's what they got. Residents should blame their representatives.

They should blame their Federal representatives. States are left in a position of having to give massive tax breaks in order to attract/maintain large businesses. If Nevada refuses to give tax breaks, everyone will simply build elsewhere. There are businesses that cross state lines and back every few years to regain tax breaks.

Re: Musk emails alleged Tesla saboteur, 'You're a horrible human being'

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Here are some moral judgements against Elon: * shopped around US cities to bargain for the most corporate welfare tax breaks for his gigafactory, effectively shoveling the taxburden onto the residents. * promised so many new jobs to Reno for the gigafactory, but most of the construction contracts were given to out of state construction firms. * uses "third party" contractor loopholes to separate workers from the comp…

Tax-shopping is done by everyone, and the states are fully aware that tax shopping is a thing. Claiming this as a moral failing of Elon’s is bending the truth beyond breaking point.

Do you have sources for your other claims?

Re: Musk emails alleged Tesla saboteur, 'You're a horrible human being'

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Here are some moral judgements against Elon: * shopped around US cities to bargain for the most corporate welfare tax breaks for his gigafactory, effectively shoveling the taxburden onto the residents. * promised so many new jobs to Reno for the gigafactory, but most of the construction contracts were given to out of state construction firms. * uses "third party" contractor loopholes to separate workers from the comp…

> I'm going to act like I don't know how anything in the real world works so I can go on a moral crusade against this guy I heard is bad.

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Here are some moral judgements against Elon: * shopped around US cities to bargain for the most corporate welfare tax breaks for his gigafactory, effectively shoveling the taxburden onto the residents. * promised so many new jobs to Reno for the gigafactory, but most of the construction contracts were given to out of state construction firms. * uses "third party" contractor loopholes to separate workers from the comp…

Tax-shopping is done by everyone, and the states are fully aware that tax shopping is a thing. Claiming this as a moral failing of Elon’s is bending the truth beyond breaking point. Do you have sources for your other claims?

> Tax-shopping is done by everyone

And that includes Elon, and he can be judged for it.

As for my other claims, I'm from Reno and I know what the labor situation is like up there and how Tesla lied to the city and county about their plans.

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