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Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by atVelocet »

chupasaurus wrote: post #599
agotterer wrote: post #581

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The open source statement isn’t accurate because Chromium is open source. But I do agree that one company shouldn’t control the internet or browsing experience end to end. Although as far as pushing web standards and browsing Google has mostly been a good citizen. Let’s just pretend AMP wasn’t a thing.

Go get some Chromium Stable installation for Windows. Choose wisely, though [0]. [0] https://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-sn...

Or better use one of these: https://chromium.woolyss.com/ https://download-chromium.appspot.com/

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Post by adamc »

In the last year, my experience is that Firefox has become far more sluggish. It often has quite perceptible delays in responding to input. Slow JavaScript in one tab often affects other tabs. It also acts weirdly when using it over rdp.

On paper, Quantum does lots of good things. In practice, my experience with it is not nearly so positive. And the plugin breakage of the last few years has been extremely irksome.

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Post by matt-snider »

callahad wrote: post #572
kees99 wrote: post #478

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> website which is "best viewed with Chrome" I'm stunned. Is this still a thing? Last time I remember seeing websites recommending a browser, it was late 90s with "get Netscape" gifs.

Google themselves launched or re-launched five Chrome-only sites last year (Hangouts, Meet, Adwords, Earth, and Allo). Six if you count the Google Advanced Protection Program. Google Flights began blocking Firefox for Android last week, and Google still serves a degraded Search experience to Firefox users on Android (but hey, no AMP). Despite well-meaning concern from the Chrome team, it's abundantly clear that Googl…

Also noticed this with Google Flights last week. I dislike the way they position it, as if Firefox for Android is insufficient:

> Time for an upgrade. Looks like your browser needs a boost. To get the best Google Flights experience, upgrade to one of the supported browsers.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by nsm »

dblohm7 wrote: post #242
nsm wrote: post #233

I'm typing this comment from Firefox running inside a container on a Pixelbook (ChromeOS) :) Firefox has been my daily driver for over 5 years, with all my history and bookmarks synced across all devices I had to have it on ChromeOS too. It does a great job. The Tree Style Tabs extension really makes life easy and with u2f support, there are very few things I need to use Chrome for now (Looks at hangouts!).

My understanding is that Hangouts has finally been fixed.

Thanks!

I tried this out, but it said "experimental" and didn't really work on the pixelbook. It only asked for microphone permission, not camera, and neither speakers nor microphone worked.

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Post by phyzome »

krallja wrote: post #567
scaryclam wrote: post #514

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Yep. You can't use google hangouts without chrome. I've seen other websites (non-google) doing the same. Chrome is the new IE it seems :(

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17364039 says Hangouts’ usable in firefox once more.

I can tell you that it's pretty touch and go. They don't even support screensharing in Chromium, did you know that?

Meet did start to work in latest Firefox recently, and then this week they broke mic audio. -.-

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Post by mkirklions »

afranchuk wrote: post #609
radmuzom wrote: post #467

Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

That's been my experience/preference as well. In fact I have been very taken aback by all the "Firefox is back" and "time to try Firefox again" headlines. I guess I didn't realize what sort of exodus occurred when chrome came out. But honestly, I never ran into performance issues with Firefox over the years and various versions, including the overhaul with Firefox 3. I typically have 2-8 tabs open (hasn't changed muc…

> I have been very taken aback by all the "Firefox is back" and "time to try Firefox again" headlines.

I think this is because there is a marketing campaign for firefox at the moment.

When it was front page reddit, the comments were overtly positive and any pro-chrome comments were downvoted to oblivion.

Thinking there is a massive marketing campaign and thats why we are seeing it.

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Post by neilduncan »

sureaboutthis wrote: post #500
radmuzom wrote: post #467

Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

A lot of people forget that the only browser used by most everyone was IE and that was stagnant and smelly as they come. Firefox nudged the web forward when it was introduced, and made quite a splash on its own by capturing about a fourth to a third of usage from IE, but a small company can't fend itself from Microsoft. It took Google and Chrome, later, to knock IE and Microsoft into its place with its big push forwa…

>a Google employee is the editor of HTML

If you're talking about Hixie, it's probably worth mentioning that he previously worked for Mozilla (and Opera).

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