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Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by agotterer »

radmuzom wrote: post #467

Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

The open source statement isn’t accurate because Chromium is open source.

But I do agree that one company shouldn’t control the internet or browsing experience end to end. Although as far as pushing web standards and browsing Google has mostly been a good citizen. Let’s just pretend AMP wasn’t a thing.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by rptv »

bad_user wrote: post #374

Just dropping a note in support of Firefox ... It's a great browser and I've came back to it even before the changes in Quantum, because the UI is better and it's also a browser I can trust to protect my interests. Just one thing to consider ... recently in Chrome 66 they introduced the means for cosmetic ads blocking via stylesheets that can no longer be overridden, as Google finally succumbed to demands for it. Fir…

At least FF devtools show you the event handlers attached to html nodes! But generally I agree with your statements.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by Spone »

agotterer wrote: post #581
radmuzom wrote: post #467

Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

The open source statement isn’t accurate because Chromium is open source. But I do agree that one company shouldn’t control the internet or browsing experience end to end. Although as far as pushing web standards and browsing Google has mostly been a good citizen. Let’s just pretend AMP wasn’t a thing.

> The open source statement isn’t accurate because Chromium is open source.

But Firefox is free software :)

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by noncoml »

callahad wrote: post #169
nimbius wrote: post #53

1. does it still require me to use pulseaudio to compile it. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661 2. does it still send DNS data to third parties for analytics. https://www.ghacks.net/2018/03/20/firefox-dns-over-https-and... 3. Am i still required to build Pocket when I build Firefox? are we still forbidden from removing pocket? 4. Is telemetry still shipped on by default? https://www.theregister.co.u…

1. Yes. The bug you linked to is prominently marked "RESOLVED WONTFIX." 2. We are not sending DNS data to third parties "for analytics." We are openly and transparently conducting a DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) experiment with a very small portion of users running Nightly test builds of Firefox. The experiment places a massive notification banner in the browser window with prominent buttons to disable or accept the experimen…

So to summarize: “1-2 clicks” for 3 and “1-2 clicks” for 4. Are these clicks hidden behind the scary disclaimer I get when I enter “about:config”?

I think you are being defensive and completely underplaying the effort required by saying “1-2 clicks”.

Dude, these things should be opt-in and not opt-out.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by ilikehurdles »

rptv wrote: post #582
bad_user wrote: post #374

Just dropping a note in support of Firefox ... It's a great browser and I've came back to it even before the changes in Quantum, because the UI is better and it's also a browser I can trust to protect my interests. Just one thing to consider ... recently in Chrome 66 they introduced the means for cosmetic ads blocking via stylesheets that can no longer be overridden, as Google finally succumbed to demands for it. Fir…

At least FF devtools show you the event handlers attached to html nodes! But generally I agree with your statements.

FF devtools also allow you to edit network requests and replay them all in the browser. This was super useful in my QA days as well as for general fun hacking around.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by monsieurbanana »

Fej wrote: post #560
samplesizeme wrote: post #543

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a tab hoarder as well and switched to Firefox last year for this reason. I have a 16GB MBP and I had to restart Chrome twice a day due to memory usage. The most I saw was 25GB of RAM used by Chrome (thank you solid state swap!) When Quantum was released, I did a side by side comparison, opening the exact same tabs in each browser, switching browsers each day, manually keeping tabs in sync. Did this for about two…

For bookmark sync, use, well, Firefox Sync. It's built-in.

He meant keeping sync between different browsers, i.e. between Chrome and Firefox.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by callahad »

baobrain wrote: post #542
novaRom wrote: post #532

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Flights is still not working in Firefox

What is not working? I have been using google flights to book trips for months without issues now. The only google services I've had some trouble with firefox are hangouts, and even that is fixed.

Try it on Android, where Google controls more of the market, and has less incentive for interop. You get a door slammed in your face: https://twitter.com/andrewhobden/status/1007668509826928640

Great response from Alex Russell, but it's clear that the sentiments of the Chrome team aren't translating into policy elsewhere in Google, or we wouldn't be dealing with something like this every few months.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by aembleton »

modzu wrote: post #215
fencepost wrote: post #85

I haven't seen anyone mention this, but Firefox is my "daily driver" for almost all browsing, and is also locked down with uMatrix, uBlock Origin, DecentralEyes and Ghostery (though I could probably drop Ghostery without missing it). Chrome has uBlock Origin and a few other things but interferes with pages less. I keep a set of pages for some specific web apps (e.g. GMail, Google Calendar, task management, etc.) open…

+1 for ff on android (because it can run extensions) recommend checking out 'night light mode' for night browsing -- it does some things a little nicer like dims images and uses low contrast (full disclosure: i am the author. feedback welcome!) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/night-light-m...

When I go to https://rideways.com/ it inverts the large background image

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

#590

Post by callahad »

bambataa wrote: post #451
zamalek wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Firefox is my "daily driver" I only have FF Developer Edition (IE and Edge, blegh) installed on my host. The only time I open Chrome or otherwise is inside a VM. If a website doesn't work I just close the tab. That is assuming that ever happens; off the top of my head this hasn't happened since the Quantum beta launched.

Even with Quantum I still find Firefox is almost unusably slow on some pages. It also causes very spikey resource usage. I’d like to use it exclusively but sometimes when I want to cool down my laptop I just switch to Chrome. This is on a Retina MacBook.

Have you tried setting the screen scaling back to the default, or using Firefox Nightly? I believe we recently resolved a bug around that, though I could be mis-remembering.
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