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Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

> website which is "best viewed with Chrome" I'm stunned. Is this still a thing? Last time I remember seeing websites recommending a browser, it was late 90s with "get Netscape" gifs.

Yes, Google Flights refuses to work with Firefox and asks to switch to Chrome

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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post #484

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Not only is it still a thing, Google itself is a major culprit of it. Seems like every new experiment they release is “best viewed” in — or worse, “requires” — Google Chrome.

Not just experiments. Neither Google Hangouts nor Meet worked in Firefox until the 22nd of May this year.

Google Flights is still not working in Firefox

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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post #478

Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

> website which is "best viewed with Chrome" I'm stunned. Is this still a thing? Last time I remember seeing websites recommending a browser, it was late 90s with "get Netscape" gifs.

Bank of America claims Firefox is an “unsupported browser”, so, yeah :/

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

#534

Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

I switched to Firefox a week or so ago for the same reasons. My issue is that I can't make Firefox usable for me without a bunch of tweaks. For example, scrolling with the mouse wheel feels like scrolling through mud. I like smooth scrolling but the defaults are too slow. Font rendering is also janky unless I disable hardware acceleration, which is a real shame. On Chrome, I do nothing but add a home button to the toolbar and I'm done. I still haven't found the magical combination of settings that makes Firefox feel natural.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

#535
I was a long time Chrome user and switched back to Firefox a few months ago.

It really has taken up speed and feature-wise it can compare itself with Chrome no problem.

Only issues I have are videos (sometimes FB makes problems here) and the "Multi-Account Containers" log me out of some sites (Twitter) when I closed Firefox.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Firefox broke off backwards compatibility with massive amount of extensions - without them stock FF is quite shite and unusable. Not only that, some of the features of the old extensions are impossible to implement in the new extension engine.

The new extension engine is from december 2015, so not really new. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/12/21/webextensions-in-... The API is very close to Chrome, am I right ? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/Po... Personally, I port my Chrome extension to a Firefox addons without much trouble, except for the stringent review process by a human developer which raised a lot my opinion of the…

The new extension engine shipped to the general public as part of Firefox 57 in November 2017.

While magicalbeans may be a bit hyperbolic in their criticism, as a web developer who uses all the major browsers, I am still annoyed every day by little things that are worse in Firefox since that time. It is a reasonable and valid criticism that many useful extensions were broken by the change and that a significant part of the functionality that was lost can't be reimplemented in the new system. The claims that the general reduction in functionality through loss of previous extensions would be a temporary problem and would be corrected as the new model evolved over subsequent versions have proven to be optimistic.

It is also fair to say that claims of extensions being better contained and more stable in the new model have been exaggerated. I see far more problems caused by the smaller number of extensions I now use than I ever saw before, and I have done consistently ever since the change, through three more major versions of Firefox itself and several updates to most of the extensions.

I appreciate the intent to make Firefox faster and more reliable and more secure. Surely no-one would argue that those aren't good things. But the fact is, a lot of stuff did get broken and hasn't been fixed, and for the class of users who valued Firefox for its customisability, it is a worse browser today than it was 9 months ago.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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post #527

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Opened up Firefox too and ctrl-tabbed around a bit to cause it to actually load some pages (hundreds of open tabs too, similar uBlock setup), and Windows reports Chrome 5.3 GB Firefox 4.2 GB I couldn't find a tally of where Windows applies its "memory compression" logic, to be honest I don't even know what exactly it does , but let's assume it's some background task and it did more to Chrome than to Firefox since Chr…

Can you repeat without ctrl-tabbing? What was Firefox usage then?

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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post #484
post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> website which is "best viewed with Chrome" I'm stunned. Is this still a thing? Last time I remember seeing websites recommending a browser, it was late 90s with "get Netscape" gifs.

Not only is it still a thing, Google itself is a major culprit of it. Seems like every new experiment they release is “best viewed” in — or worse, “requires” — Google Chrome.

It's quite a good filter, they can get user feedback with less risk of negative reviews.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

#540

> And both support uBlock Origin, the ad blocker recommended by many security experts. Finally a big media outlet with the right advice, the only extension you need is uBO. And a wrong one - using 1Password [0]. KeepassXC is safer, but hey, baby steps, right? :)) Chrome is snitching to Google, IE is Windows I stopped using, Safari is best, if you're rich :) Other browsers are too rare - easy for fingerprinting. [0] w…

Dang. I just switched from KeepassX from Enpass, and this article doesn't mention anything about them. Have to say the experience in Enpass is far superior to KeepassX, but I get that security is quite important! If I had data that Enpass was full of holes, I'd switch back instantly!

What made you to switch, I'm curious? Passwords is by far most sensitive data ever, way above tracking. So for passwords I trust no service to store them. KeepassXC encrypts them with your master password that you type every time, and you can now sync that encrypted database safely using iCloud Drive or Dropbox or whatever.

I do store some non-critical passwords in Safari, it uses Keychain and Apple is pretty good on security. I would not store passwords in other browsers though.

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