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Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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I'm writing this from a 2016 Thinkpad with 508 open tabs in Chrome. works. (wouldn't work if turned off the ad-blocker, but why would I do that...) Firefox does it at least as well, just having both open is a bit much.

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Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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It’s for your average NY Times reader that doesn’t keep up with the day-to-day tech news world.

And don't forget about those thousands (millions?) of users who suddenly found Chrome installed on their computer because they updated their Virus Scanner or installed some Freeware where it was bundled with Chrome.

Still an upgrade from IE8 the same group would be using. I'm not advocating bundled installs, but installing secure (compared to old IE) browser alongside antivirus software is one of the very few cases where it makes sense.

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Firefox broke off backwards compatibility with massive amount of extensions - without them stock FF is quite shite and unusable. Not only that, some of the features of the old extensions are impossible to implement in the new extension engine.

> without them stock FF is quite shite and unusable Pardon ? Actually FF is better that Chrome!

Without extensions all web browsers are quite equally unusable. Long gone are the days of Opera presto when browsers shipped fully featured.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Firefox was never away, at least for me. Therefore the expression "Firefox is back" sounds a little odd to me. I have been using it since 2006 (Firefox 2.0). Back then, the presence of the Firebug extension for Firefox made me switch to Firefox as my primary browser. Two years later, Chrome arrived but Firefox remained as my primary browser because I wanted to continue using the Vimperator extension for Firefox that…

I personally was never impressed by firebug. I haven't checked it out in a while but it was incredibly clunky.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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yeah, performance-wise I can't complain :) I'm a compulsive tab hoarder with about 400 open (admittedly, have to enable the "don't load until focused"-setting) on a 5 yo laptop with lots of other stuff running. No problem at all.

I am genuinely interested: why so many and how can you handle 400 open tabs?? How do you navigate between them? I am lost as soon as I have more than 10 tabs open at the same time...

On Firefox at least, it doesn't actually load those tabs until you click on them. I have about 400 tabs on this session of FF Nightly, on a 2010 4GB Ubuntu laptop.

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Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

> website which is "best viewed with Chrome" I'm stunned. Is this still a thing? Last time I remember seeing websites recommending a browser, it was late 90s with "get Netscape" gifs.

Unfortunately, yes, e.g. Google Earth: https://www.google.com/earth/

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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WebExtensions (aka new generation addons) are getting more powerful with each version :)

Thanks for the info. :) Great work so far! High on my list is for the extensions to work on about:* and addons.mozilla.org pages. I like to use Vimium everywhere and 'Dark Background and Light Text' to also work on the preferences. Also I really miss DownThemAll... I tried a couple of replacements, but they didn't for instance download all books from a Humble Book Bundle.

> High on my list is for the extensions to work on [...] addons.mozilla.org pages.

There's actually an about:config setting that fixes this already. I put a helper in Tridactyl for it called `:fixamo` [1], but you can easily do it manually by setting

"privacy.resistFingerprinting.block_mozAddonManager" = true

and

"extensions.webextensions.restrictedDomains" = ""

(Unfortunately, this does nothing about about: pages or the PDF viewer which used to work but was "fixed" :( ).

[1] https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl/blob/8c49d26340cdc0db3c...

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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I was thinking more of compilation times, but of course if you write JS for example in VIM then this is not an issue (given that it can run a browser).

Do people write compiled programs any more? (en-mass) Especially large ones? I remember compiling a 2.4 kernel on a 486 once, only kernel to suppose the PCMCIA network card. It didn't go quickly. If you really want to compile the program, vou can always do the compilation on a server.

Of course they do. Where do you think you get your kernels, drivers, firmware for various IoT from etc.? Compiling a small (~100 MB), custom OS purely (as much as it's possible) from source code can still take hours even on modern laptop.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Is there a reason to use both uBlock Origin and uMatrix? I thought uMatrix was a more explicit version of the same functionality as uBlock Origin (and written by the same guy).

I use them together, uMatrix as a fine grained control tool where I can setup a saved profile and click-allow until functionality & appearance are acceptable to me, and for 'one-off' or 'fuck-it no time' situations I just toggle uMatrix off. It is very rare I have to turn off uBlock Origin as well (the nuclear option). This leaves me four-five quick clicks away from the median or average user experience.

uBlock Origin offers part of the uMatrix functionality as well in the "advanced user" mode.
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