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Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personality Traits: Lawsuit

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Re: Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personality Traits: Lawsuit

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Funny how the activist at these universities cry "institutional racism" when in reality the only concrete verifiable evidence of it is their own institution. It makes no sense to cry about white privilege when you're actively holding down a race that is on pace and even outperforming whites in higher education and median income, and yet this very contradiction and others alludes people due to their own confirmation b…

Activists at an institution are very different people from the admissions personnel at an institution

Are they? Seems like the vast majority are enablers, or at the least cowards / usefull idiots. Many espouse the same miopic ideology and feel it is thier duty to aqcuiesce to activist demands.

Look at what happen at Evergreen. Look atbthe holloween costume controversy at Yale. How many speeking events have to be shut down before we start to admit the truth.

Imagine if they were rating black and hispanic students lower in personality scores simply due to quotas. We’d call it what it is, outright racism.

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This is newspeak for "Asians do not score well on parameters that don't matter in real life". Asian student community is remarkably focused on real results instead of pointless activism and social justice wars. Partly the reason they are high achievers in real life where as most kids who "do well on personality traits" turn out to be losers.

> "parameters that don't matter in real life" Asian Americans are the least likely group in the US to be promoted to management. https://hbr.org/2018/05/asian-americans-are-the-least-likely...

This has more to do with age and Chinese Exclusion Act. Most of the Indian/Chinese people are young and not in the age group where they will become CEOs. You will see a rapid increase in Indian/Chinese CEOs in next 10 years. As second generation Indians and Chinese would reach the age group of CEOs.

Asians are dominating US colleges they will dominate US executives by 2040.

Of course some of them might go back to India and China.

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And yet... “Psychometricians generally regard IQ tests as having high statistical reliability.[9][56] A high reliability implies that – although test-takers may have varying scores when taking the same test on differing occasions, and although they may have varying scores when taking different IQ tests at the same age – the scores generally agree with one another and across time.” “Clinical psychologists generally re…

None of what you cited has anything to do with sustained practice. IQ tests are generally accurate across a large population because very few people are practicing them, not because practice doesn't improve scores. If you provided widespread incentive for people to practice IQ tests like colleges do for the SAT, they would cease to be an accurate measure of intelligence.

You admit IQ tests are generally accurate, and I showed that SAT scores are strongly correlated with IQ. Thus SAT scores are also generally accurate. So what’s your point?

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> I can't help but think that college admissions based solely on test scores (as done in India, Russia, maybe China?) Russian here, this is not entirely correct. Instead of race you have region and when that region is 80-90%+ single ethnicity then a region division serves as "race-by-proxy". You can also get a certain region overrepresented (with regards to it's total population) and by extension certain ethnicity as…

I'm sorry I don't think I understood. I didn't mention race anywhere in my comment. You're saying that students from certain regions in Russia do better on tests and are therefore overrepresented in colleges?

No, I'm saying that certain regions have a mandatory representation "floor", i.e. you can't have < X students of region Y in college Z.
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