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Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#21
It looks promising. Some of my initial comments.

It imported the bookmarks from Firefox just fine. But the categorization of the bookmarks is, sorry to be critical, but buggy. Examples I can say are,

1) Techmeme, Engadget, Techcrunch etc. pages not in Sci/Tech. 2) Cricinfo, ESPN, ManUtd pages not in Sports. 3) A page on Microsoft and Cleartype was placed in Entertainment!! 4) MSBuild tutorial on Health!

and so on. You need to fix this real quick I believe. As it's one of your main selling point.

1) The Search lens image can be clickable. I atleast expected it to be.Only way is to press Enter key. 2) If the search result don't return any results, don't change the categories left panel from general to search specific.

Overall I like it and may use it.

Besides, are you associated with AdventNet/Zoho? Just wanted to check as you have put a footnote for Vembu Technologies. Are they both related even? I might be mistaken.

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#22
post #7

I consume more information offline than online .. I think. Plan to make this a desktop utility as well, something that integrates with the desktop that allows you to right-click and "Zukmo" any given file. Even if you have to fake it by copying files to a temp directory and later sync them with your servers (why? better keep it private on users' machines.) You will need integration with (MS|Open) Office sometime in t…

This is totally off-topic, but how do they make the text on their webpage look so good? Is that a CSS thing?

If you're referring to the white shadow of the text, it is indeed css.

  text-shadow: 1px 1px 0px white;

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#23
When I tried to confirm my email, I get redirected to: http://zukmo.com/register.html?err=rk_invalid

Also, If I try using the twitter button on that page to login, It throws the following error when it redirects to http://www.zukmo.com/twitter?oauth_token=_____________

"java.lang.NullPointerException"

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#24
post #20

Do the bookmarks become public for others to read? I don't like letting everyone know what I read, for reasons of competitive advantage.

No. All the pages added to Zukmo are private to you. Unless you take some action to share them, they remain private to you.

If you want to share them, you can explicitly share them via Zukmo. We also provide options to share the bookmarks on Facebook and Twitter.

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#25
How is this different from historious? I use historious and instapaper to save bookmarks and read later, and I am extremely happy with the service. I might jump in if your service provided features of both, ie: indexing my bookmarks and making it available on my kindle.

Also do you provide bookmarklets instead of the firefox plugin? It would be easier for those of us who use multiple machines and may not be able to install plugins on all.

I do like the idea of indexing content other than just webpages, like youtube videos, rss , twitter etc. Does your system handle Twitter and RSS updates also?

I will be back with more feedback after I start using the service.

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#26

When I tried to confirm my email, I get redirected to: http://zukmo.com/register.html?err=rk_invalid Also, If I try using the twitter button on that page to login, It throws the following error when it redirects to http://www.zukmo.com/twitter?oauth_token=_____________ "java.lang.NullPointerException"

Did you click on the confirm email link twice? The first time you click it, the email is confirmed. The next time, we should show a message saying your email is already confirmed. But, we have a bug that doesn't show the message and redirects you to the register page.

We will recreate this issue and get it fixed ASAP. Do let us know if you are unable to login.

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#27

How is this different from historious? I use historious and instapaper to save bookmarks and read later, and I am extremely happy with the service. I might jump in if your service provided features of both, ie: indexing my bookmarks and making it available on my kindle. Also do you provide bookmarklets instead of the firefox plugin? It would be easier for those of us who use multiple machines and may not be able to i…

Thanks vkalladath for the feedback. We are indexing the entire content as well as have an Easy Reader that provides an uncluttered view of the page. Providing support for Kindle is a good idea. We are currently working on iPhone, iPad and Android apps. Will look into Kindle as well.

We do provide bookmarklets. Once you sign into the app, go to the "Account" tab and you will see "Bookmarklet" option.

We do plan on adding Facebook and Twitter streams as well as RSS feeds.

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#28

How is this different from historious? I use historious and instapaper to save bookmarks and read later, and I am extremely happy with the service. I might jump in if your service provided features of both, ie: indexing my bookmarks and making it available on my kindle. Also do you provide bookmarklets instead of the firefox plugin? It would be easier for those of us who use multiple machines and may not be able to i…

By the way, how is historious on the kindle? I just ordered one, so we might add a better interface for the kindle, so you can forgo instapaper altogether (there's "read later" functionality already, along with the custom bookmarklet here: http://historio.us/help/bookmarklets/).

What's not working on the kindle right now?

Thanks!

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#29
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks wazoox. Do keep the feedback coming. You're right. We should move the account creation page under SSL.

You asked for it ;) Sorry if I seem critical; it's intended to be constructive. I imported my Firefox bookmarks. You've captured all the bookmarks themselves, but you seem to have discarded all other metadata, including (a) the hierarchical structure, and (b) tags and description. This is really unfortunate, particularly because your auto-categorization code seems to show a high degree of .... shall we say, creativit…

Thanks CWuestefeld. Yes, we did ask for it :-) That is why we love HN and the constructive discussions here.

You raise a very important point. We did discard all the heirarchical structure and the tags. Our initial thought was that tags and folders are not needed as we can search for a bookmark based on terms we remember from the content of the page. However, the fact is that there maybe additional data in the tags and folders and descriptions that may get ignored. We are looking at way to add this data into our index so that it isn't lost.

We are planning on adding the search within the browser extensions. That would make it easy for you to search your Zukmo account without visiting the site.

About signing in through Facebook, it is just an option some users may find useful. They don't have to remember another password. Personally, I find the Twitter sign in option as I don't mind giving out my Twitter credentials. So, we decided to provide all three options: Your own email id/password, Twitter or Facebook.

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#30

It looks promising. Some of my initial comments. It imported the bookmarks from Firefox just fine. But the categorization of the bookmarks is, sorry to be critical, but buggy. Examples I can say are, 1) Techmeme, Engadget, Techcrunch etc. pages not in Sci/Tech. 2) Cricinfo, ESPN, ManUtd pages not in Sports. 3) A page on Microsoft and Cleartype was placed in Entertainment!! 4) MSBuild tutorial on Health! and so on. Yo…

Thanks blntechie for your feedback.

The categorization of bookmarks was started with a set of seed urls. It will get better as more and more pages are categorized through it. We will continue to fine tune it.

Good points about the Search lens and about changing the left panel when there are no pages found for the search terms.

We are part of Vembu Technologies. Sekar Vembu, our CEO was one of the founders of Zoho. Vembu Technologies was founded in 2004.

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