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Post by letsgetsilly »

fs111 wrote: post #186

As a user of AirBnb I would be so happy if they just stopped updating the app. They are making it worse and worse. When I travel and I arrive at an airport, I do not need spiffy animations and "fun things to do" in the city I am in, I need a way to quickly find the address of the place or a way to message the host. Stop with all this experience stuff and give me the facts I need right now

Couldn't agree more. The app's usefulness is most relevant when messaging host or getting directions. There's so much bloat in front of those main uses.

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Post by jczhang »

xenadu02 wrote: post #143

I’ve never seen anyone do a battery impact analysis of React Native. I wonder why? Person sally, I don’t want to use products where the developer prioritizes their problems over my experiencs but YMMV. Some will argue that an Electron dumpster fire is superior to nothing. I consider that debatable.

Repeating what someone else has said, React Native is not Electron.

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Post by bigmanwalter »

hokkos wrote: post #180
Tade0 wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to be a CKEditor core dev. The codebase was 150k LOC of (mighty complex at times)JS and there were four of us working on the LTS(4.x) - we were somewhat understaffed, but not "we need a hundred devs for this" understaffed. On the other hand last year I spent two weeks working on a project for which I was borrowed from another one - they had a total of 120k LOC(Java, TypeScript), twenty people and at least the…

I guess quality is a factor, because CKEditor 4.X might have a lot of lines but it is one of the worst library I had the displeasure to use.

I use it extensively in my current project and it is a joy. Different strokes for different folks.

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Post by bigmanwalter »

mephitix wrote: post #66
eysquared wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The common thread I see is that mixing native and react-native is hard. Doing so while working across organizations that may or may not use react-native is doubly so. Sometimes this boils down to the technology, knowledge, and the engineering systems needed to support both but I've also found native developers tend to strongly dislike react-native and lobby against whenever they can. For me, I'm using it to successfu…

I invested a lot into a full React webapp - it would be great to share some of that code with mobile apps. I have an iOS background but was intending to make a RN app so that I could share the bulk of the React webapp code and get Android support as well. I have separation of container components and presentational SFCs so I’m thinking I could easily re-implement UI layers in RN if I wanted to without sacrificing the…

Look into Cordova. It can wrap your static frontend in a multiplatform app that runs inside a chromeless web browser. Super easy to set up and use. Adobe even offers an online build service, PhoneGap Build, which can build Corodva applications for iOS without needing a Mac!

I have successfully used this approach to develop applications for both Android and iOS.

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Post by vanadium »

rpeden wrote: post #70
kbyatnal wrote: post #16

"While debugging, React Native attaches to a Chrome Developer Tools instance. This is great because it is a powerful debugger. However, once the debugger is attached, all JavaScript runs within Chrome’s V8 engine. This is fine 99.9% of the time. However, in one instance, we got bit when toLocaleString worked on iOS and but only worked on Android while debugging. It turns out that the Android JSC doesn’t include it an…

I ran into a fun one like that many years ago in IE. The JavaScript I had written was failing, but when I opened up the devtools to debug it, it worked. It turned out that in that version of IE, the console object only existed when the devtools were open. So a stray console.log call was causing an exception because console was undefined. But when I opened the devtools to see what was going on, console existed and so…

"It turned out that in that version of IE, the console object only existed when the devtools were open. So a stray console.log call was causing an exception because console was undefined. But when I opened the devtools to see what was going on, console existed and so everything ran just fine."

Flashbacks commencing.

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Post by rboyd »

raphaelrk wrote: post #132
rboyd wrote: post #97

Very good write-up, thanks for posting. Some of the frustrations definitely hit home. I think for small teams and indies React Native is an awesome piece of technology that can enable them to target both platforms where it would be nearly impossible otherwise. I can understand how orchestrating the work of a huge team could introduce new issues though. It would be interesting to know why some of the infra layers that…

Re: your last sentence, Pagedraw (YC W18) is a good choice for going from design to UI components and features great Sketch and Figma integration.

Thanks for the pointer. That does look interesting. RN not yet GA though?

I also noticed Framer announced an upcoming tool 'Framer X' with React support -- not sure if that includes RN either.

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Post by bigmanwalter »

danpalmer wrote: post #170
benawad wrote: post #4

"Redux is notorious for its boilerplate and has a relatively difficult learning curve. We provided generators for some common templates but it was still one of the most challenging pieces and source of confusion while working with React Native." Interesting to see even Airbnb struggles with Redux

It's really amazing to see Redux, and then go and use the Elm architecture. The Elm architecture is so simple you could write the API on a business card, and it fundamentally does the same thing, and solves the same problem. There's almost no accidental complexity, only essential complexity. Redux on the other hand feels like there's so much accidental complexity, but it's not even obvious, it's masquerading as essen…

It feels like an emperor with no clothes situation. Redux is obviously terrible but the community has adopted it none the less.

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Post by bigmanwalter »

jgalentine007 wrote: post #73
Apocryphon wrote: post #41

Really curious as to how Flutter (and Xamarin, NativeScript, Ionic, Vue-based write-once frameworks, etc.) can overcome the difficulties expressed in this piece.

I've tried pretty hard to get into RN with a few hobby projects and I've given up. I'm wondering if PWAs are the way forward for the average data driven mobile app.

My money is entirely on PWAs :)

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Post by mcast »

fs111 wrote: post #186

As a user of AirBnb I would be so happy if they just stopped updating the app. They are making it worse and worse. When I travel and I arrive at an airport, I do not need spiffy animations and "fun things to do" in the city I am in, I need a way to quickly find the address of the place or a way to message the host. Stop with all this experience stuff and give me the facts I need right now

I concur, I tried looking for a place in Orlando the other day. Instead, I was shown 40% house/apt listings, 60% tourist/Groupon-esque events.
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