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Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

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Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#11

Post by notahacker »

kumark23 wrote: post #6
BTBurke wrote: post #4

I spent a few minutes thinking about why I would want this service. It wasn't immediately clear to me what benefit it would provide over something like delicious or just standard bookmarking features in your browser -- then I got it... it indexes the page and lets me search for what I'm looking for later using the full content, rather than just the tags I assigned or information that can be found in the URL or page t…

Thanks, BTBurke. Good point. Indexing the entire content of the page so that you can search for anything within the page is a big part of what we do. However, there are several other things we do that we were trying to show on the landing page. For instance, we have an Easy Reader that shows only the essential content of the page without any ads, headers, menus, javascript etc.(similar to the Safari Reader/Instapaper…

There's something nicely alliterative about the key things that your service appears to help you do with interesting webpages: Save, Sync, Search, Share, Simplify

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#12

Post by StavrosK »

BTBurke wrote: post #4

I spent a few minutes thinking about why I would want this service. It wasn't immediately clear to me what benefit it would provide over something like delicious or just standard bookmarking features in your browser -- then I got it... it indexes the page and lets me search for what I'm looking for later using the full content, rather than just the tags I assigned or information that can be found in the URL or page t…

So it's the same thing as historious, basically?

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

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Post by kumark23 »

StavrosK wrote: post #12
BTBurke wrote: post #4

I spent a few minutes thinking about why I would want this service. It wasn't immediately clear to me what benefit it would provide over something like delicious or just standard bookmarking features in your browser -- then I got it... it indexes the page and lets me search for what I'm looking for later using the full content, rather than just the tags I assigned or information that can be found in the URL or page t…

So it's the same thing as historious, basically?

Zukmo and historious do let you search the entire content of the page.

However, unlike historious, Zukmo does a lot of additional stuff with the pages that you add to Zukmo. It automatically categorizes them. It also provides an uncluttered view (Easy Reader) similar to Safari Reader and Instapaper Text View. This will come in handy when you view it on mobile devices (we are currently working on apps for the iPhone, iPad and Android). With Zukmo, you can also share on Twitter, Facebook and via email right when you add the page to Zukmo.

Also, other than bookmarks, we will be adding the ability to add your Twitter and Facebook streams as well as RSS feeds into Zukmo.

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#14

Post by kumark23 »

notahacker wrote: post #11
kumark23 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, BTBurke. Good point. Indexing the entire content of the page so that you can search for anything within the page is a big part of what we do. However, there are several other things we do that we were trying to show on the landing page. For instance, we have an Easy Reader that shows only the essential content of the page without any ads, headers, menus, javascript etc.(similar to the Safari Reader/Instapaper…

There's something nicely alliterative about the key things that your service appears to help you do with interesting webpages: Save, Sync, Search, Share, Simplify

Cool. You explained in five words, what we tried to do with a hundred :-)

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#16

Post by kumark23 »

Maro wrote: post #15

Does it do PDF? PPT, DOC?

YES. We index most of the common document types. The list includes: Text (.txt) HTML (.html, .htm) XML (.xml) PDF (.pdf) Word (.doc) Excel (.xls) PowerPoint (.ppt) Visio (.vso) Outlook Archive Files (.zip, .tar) OpenDocument (.odf) Java (.java) Rich Text Format (RTF)

More info at http://www.zukmo.com/faq.html

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#17

Post by amackera »

mahmud wrote: post #7

I consume more information offline than online .. I think. Plan to make this a desktop utility as well, something that integrates with the desktop that allows you to right-click and "Zukmo" any given file. Even if you have to fake it by copying files to a temp directory and later sync them with your servers (why? better keep it private on users' machines.) You will need integration with (MS|Open) Office sometime in t…

This is totally off-topic, but how do they make the text on their webpage look so good? Is that a CSS thing?

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#18

Post by randomtask »

kumark23 wrote: post #16
Maro wrote: post #15

Does it do PDF? PPT, DOC?

YES. We index most of the common document types. The list includes: Text (.txt) HTML (.html, .htm) XML (.xml) PDF (.pdf) Word (.doc) Excel (.xls) PowerPoint (.ppt) Visio (.vso) Outlook Archive Files (.zip, .tar) OpenDocument (.odf) Java (.java) Rich Text Format (RTF) More info at http://www.zukmo.com/faq.html

Nice. The thought of ".java" being a common document type made me smile. Guess we know what it's written in ;)

Re: Ask HN: Please review our new service - Zukmo

#19

Post by CWuestefeld »

kumark23 wrote: post #5
wazoox wrote: post #3

Looks interesting. I'll test it. Just created an account. First comment : * it would be nice if the account creation page was SSL'ed. * The Firefox extension is a nice touch. I'll tell you how it goes, too.

Thanks wazoox. Do keep the feedback coming. You're right. We should move the account creation page under SSL.

You asked for it ;) Sorry if I seem critical; it's intended to be constructive.

I imported my Firefox bookmarks. You've captured all the bookmarks themselves, but you seem to have discarded all other metadata, including (a) the hierarchical structure, and (b) tags and description. This is really unfortunate, particularly because your auto-categorization code seems to show a high degree of .... shall we say, creativity?

It looks like the only way to access this saved stuff is to actually visit your page. There's no way I can access it through the browser itself (as I can with bookmarks today). While you do have a FF extension, it doesn't seem to provide a means of accessing those bookmarks, only a way to add new ones. It may seem petty, but the need to open your web site to access a bookmark is enough extra rigmarole that I'm not going to bother.

As mentioned in another thread yesterday, I'm not going to log in using Facebook. It requires exposing my friends' identities, and I don't feel I have the right to make that choice for them.

For that matter, I'm never, ever, going to choose the option so that my new entries are posted into Facebook. Bookmarks (and other notetaking) is a tool, like turning a screwdriver. While I might post to a social site about the project I'm working on, I don't post about each screw I turn.

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