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China-based campaign breached satellite, defense companies: Symantec

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Re: China-based campaign breached satellite, defense companies: Symantec

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Post by steevdave »

ahmedalsudani wrote: post #13
justicezyx wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1. The Chinese government is more than capable of stopping all of the types you listed. I dont think this is technically possible. Or you are assuming vastly more advanced technologies possessed by Chinese government. From what we know from Chinese tech company and track record, I doubt this is true. > 2. ... (see Github DDoS for a high-profile recent example). Links? > 3. The US intelligence community has stated t…

> I dont think this is technically possible. > Or you are assuming vastly more advanced technologies possessed by Chinese government. > From what we know from Chinese tech company and track record, I doubt this is true. It is not technically feasible, but legal consequences serve as sufficient deterrent. Not many people in the US would carry similar activities. It helps that just about all Chinese corporations are re…

>It's quite easy to find the stuff I >mentioned earlier using a search >engine

If you make the claims, it's on you to provide the proof, not on us to go out and search and find or not find it.

Re: China-based campaign breached satellite, defense companies: Symantec

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Post by analognoise »

deltateam wrote: post #9
est wrote: post #2

Choose your type of "China" hacking: - Chinese IP address - IP address that links back to something China - IP range that belongs to a Chinese cloud provider - Chinese hacker group (admittedly most of them are reallocated in south east asia) - botnet located in mainland China - Government sponsored action There are so many articles directly jumping into conclusion of the last type.

My favorite is when the term state-sponsored hacker never applies to US actions

Equation Group, TAO, Flame, Stuxnet? There are whole books written about US state sponsored hacks, what are you talking about??

Re: China-based campaign breached satellite, defense companies: Symantec

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Post by solotronics »

Waterluvian wrote: post #17
zard784 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sure hope so, China has taken one of the least wise and darker paths these past centuries.

Now that's one astroturfy trumplike comment.

you saying this is short sighted and distracts from real issues such as genocide and massive human rights violations happening around the world right now.

Re: China-based campaign breached satellite, defense companies: Symantec

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Post by girvo »

steevdave wrote: post #21
ahmedalsudani wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I dont think this is technically possible. > Or you are assuming vastly more advanced technologies possessed by Chinese government. > From what we know from Chinese tech company and track record, I doubt this is true. It is not technically feasible, but legal consequences serve as sufficient deterrent. Not many people in the US would carry similar activities. It helps that just about all Chinese corporations are re…

>It's quite easy to find the stuff I >mentioned earlier using a search >engine If you make the claims, it's on you to provide the proof, not on us to go out and search and find or not find it.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/ddos-...

Re: China-based campaign breached satellite, defense companies: Symantec

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Post by ahmedalsudani »

steevdave wrote: post #21
ahmedalsudani wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I dont think this is technically possible. > Or you are assuming vastly more advanced technologies possessed by Chinese government. > From what we know from Chinese tech company and track record, I doubt this is true. It is not technically feasible, but legal consequences serve as sufficient deterrent. Not many people in the US would carry similar activities. It helps that just about all Chinese corporations are re…

>It's quite easy to find the stuff I >mentioned earlier using a search >engine If you make the claims, it's on you to provide the proof, not on us to go out and search and find or not find it.

Not really as this is not a scientific journal. You can accept or reject my claims as you wish, and you can research their factuality if you’d like.

Re: China-based campaign breached satellite, defense companies: Symantec

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Post by est »

analognoise wrote: post #22
deltateam wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite is when the term state-sponsored hacker never applies to US actions

Equation Group, TAO, Flame, Stuxnet? There are whole books written about US state sponsored hacks, what are you talking about??

In every remotely technical report of "China" hacking, it's mostly about phishing business. 0day exploits embedded in email attachments with pdf/doc/docx. NSA shit is whole different level.

Re: China-based campaign breached satellite, defense companies: Symantec

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Post by Pica_soO »

ahmedalsudani wrote: post #13
justicezyx wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1. The Chinese government is more than capable of stopping all of the types you listed. I dont think this is technically possible. Or you are assuming vastly more advanced technologies possessed by Chinese government. From what we know from Chinese tech company and track record, I doubt this is true. > 2. ... (see Github DDoS for a high-profile recent example). Links? > 3. The US intelligence community has stated t…

> I dont think this is technically possible. > Or you are assuming vastly more advanced technologies possessed by Chinese government. > From what we know from Chinese tech company and track record, I doubt this is true. It is not technically feasible, but legal consequences serve as sufficient deterrent. Not many people in the US would carry similar activities. It helps that just about all Chinese corporations are re…

>I concede those are pretty good reasons, but they would unravel sooner or later if there were no truth to them.

Yes, surely if you would spend billions to fight a imaginary enemy whos people have to wait in line for toilet paper, that would be something you would remember.

Man, those people in the Security Community are so incompetent, they trashed there own paper-potemkin-advesary (russia) by accident and now have to make up a new one.

Not even congress would buy that more Hightech is necessary to fight the taliban.

Best would be, if the US accepted that there wil always be some ridiculous spending on "imagined advesaries" and choose the advesaries more by the potential tech outcome.

Im pretty sure, those Antarcticans are plotting to conquer the Asteroid belt - building energy collecting deathrays and the evil Europeans are trying to establish underwater colonys on europa. Death to Antarctica!

Re: China-based campaign breached satellite, defense companies: Symantec

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Post by 2stop »

zard784 wrote: post #18
Waterluvian wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now that's one astroturfy trumplike comment.

When you make obviously stupid decisions that lead to mass canibalsim like China, then you’re not wise imo. https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/cannibalism-112220131... Also murdering your own citizens to harvest their organs, pretty bad in my imo too. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_...

Falun Gong, a group supposedly that just likes practicing qigong, which if you ever visit China you will see thousands of people do this every day. But which seems to Have a massive propaganda apparatus that it deploys worldwide.
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