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Turkey's 'Mathematics Village': Changing education one equation at a time

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Re: Turkey's 'Mathematics Village': Changing education one equation at a time

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Post by gkya »

I have wrote a bit about the situation of Turkish education system here, in the form of three big consecutive comments. Here is a link for anybody interested: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15373653

[Edit: rereading this series of comments I linked above, I note some mistakes in there. E.g. the wealth tax was collected from Muslims too, albeit at a wildly lower rate compared to non-Muslims. Apart from this sort of details though, it should be fine and rather accurate. Any corrections are welcome!]

Basically the education has lately become an ideological battleground, and the 1980 coup has furnished the controls to the government to play with it at every level however it wants. This situation combined with an air of anti-intellectualism has caused the education and academical system to rot.

Hopefully the upcoming vote will bring a change for good. If there will be anyone ready to listen, I have tonnes of feedback ready to be given, and I believe, hopefully again, I'm far from alone in that.

Re: Turkey's 'Mathematics Village': Changing education one equation at a time

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Post by kolpa »

buraksarica wrote: post #7
darkhorn wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They sued him because he was critisizing Erdoğan.

Just google “Ali nesin Erdoğan” and you will see the opposite mostly. He doesn’t admire Erdoğan but he is liberal enough to analyse him fair.

"analyse him fair" is criticism (true for anyone, not just Erdoğan). But as I hear, Erdoğan doesn't tolerate fair analysis.

Re: Turkey's 'Mathematics Village': Changing education one equation at a time

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Post by linkmotif »

haskellandchill wrote: post #10
linkmotif wrote: post #9

Woah count me in, I'm there! Soon as I get rich :). I've been looking for this place.

I too look forward to spending some cozy times with maths when I am comfortable. However my bank account has been near zero for a decade, I must at a certain point admit I will not achieve this vision and get on with life. Not there yet!

Hey you wanna Haskell and chill?

Re: Turkey's 'Mathematics Village': Changing education one equation at a time

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Post by bulkan »

kolpa wrote: post #13
buraksarica wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just google “Ali nesin Erdoğan” and you will see the opposite mostly. He doesn’t admire Erdoğan but he is liberal enough to analyse him fair.

"analyse him fair" is criticism (true for anyone, not just Erdoğan). But as I hear, Erdoğan doesn't tolerate fair analysis.

Because fair analysis means that he gets criticised !

Re: Turkey's 'Mathematics Village': Changing education one equation at a time

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Post by haskellandchill »

linkmotif wrote: post #14
haskellandchill wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too look forward to spending some cozy times with maths when I am comfortable. However my bank account has been near zero for a decade, I must at a certain point admit I will not achieve this vision and get on with life. Not there yet!

Hey you wanna Haskell and chill?

Not really anymore haha. It's more a state of mind. I wanna do proofs and chill these days.

Re: Turkey's 'Mathematics Village': Changing education one equation at a time

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Post by dman »

kolpa wrote: post #13
buraksarica wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just google “Ali nesin Erdoğan” and you will see the opposite mostly. He doesn’t admire Erdoğan but he is liberal enough to analyse him fair.

"analyse him fair" is criticism (true for anyone, not just Erdoğan). But as I hear, Erdoğan doesn't tolerate fair analysis.

Erdogan cant stand Real Analysis. Giggle

Re: Turkey's 'Mathematics Village': Changing education one equation at a time

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Post by roadbeats »

It’s one of the most beautiful places on earth, so should be in your bucket list if you like to travel. Visit Şirince, stay in Nişanyan Houses and see Math Village.

Here is a few photos I shot that time;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/azer/16340854491/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/azer/16155210870/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/azer/16340854491/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/azer/16156704877/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/azer/16327089302/

Note that Şirince is near Ephesus:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/azer/16150595997/

P.S Şirince wine is a scam. Mr. Nişanyan explains it in his book Aslanlı Yol.

Re: Turkey's 'Mathematics Village': Changing education one equation at a time

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Post by nurettin »

I grew up with Aziz Nesin's humorous books and later read Ali Nesin's "who is afraid of maths?". They helped me immensely while searching for meaning in life. (An adolescent endeavor, as I later noticed)

What a family of geniuses. Turkey definitely doesn't deserve them.

Re: Turkey's 'Mathematics Village': Changing education one equation at a time

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Post by candiodari »

There was an article in a French newspaper that details the real story about education changing in Turkey. The education system has moved from being mostly secular to being extremely orthodox islamic.

Newly brought in last year: jihad (and no, not "the peaceful kind"), and removal of evolution. New this year, the how righteous of the punishment of stoning is.

The illustration from that article was that several girls one day came home crying, panicked and scared from school. What had happened ? They had been shown a video of the stoning of a woman, and had to endure their teacher defending this as just for 30 minutes. Apparently this is now the new normal in Turkey.

Here's some related articles:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/20/devout-generat...

https://www.politico.eu/article/erdogan-turkey-education-new...

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