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As I get older, it's becoming clear how intertwined our morality is with our politics. And how that bleeds into business, sports, religion, etc. It's nice to think of aspects of life that should be free from politics, but in reality that seems hard to achieve.

Is it only becoming more clear or are they actually becoming more intertwined too?

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> I think that what we’re seeing right now with ICE is deeply immoral. It’s a violation of human rights on all kinds of levels. Treating criminals as criminals happens every day in every country and comes with the same consequences - children are separated from their parents. Right now there are tens of thousands of broken black homes as one or two parents are in prison - where's the outrage for them and what about t…

These people are asylum seekers. What they are doing is literally not illegal. According to USCIS, asylum seekers must be physically present in the US to apply: To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status. https://www.uscis.gov/humanitar…

The legal way to claim asylum is to do so from official points of entry.

Re: Microsoft Employees Pressure Leadership to Cancel ICE Contract

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post #9

As I get older, it's becoming clear how intertwined our morality is with our politics. And how that bleeds into business, sports, religion, etc. It's nice to think of aspects of life that should be free from politics, but in reality that seems hard to achieve.

Nothing can be free from politics, or ever is, no matter how much you wish it was or imagine it is.

Re: Microsoft Employees Pressure Leadership to Cancel ICE Contract

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As I get older, it's becoming clear how intertwined our morality is with our politics. And how that bleeds into business, sports, religion, etc. It's nice to think of aspects of life that should be free from politics, but in reality that seems hard to achieve.

This situation in particular is more complicated than the media portrays. Separating children from parents is obviously bad, and needs to stop. Zero tolerance for illegal crossings, on the other hand, is probably actually good. The prior policy of letting anyone with children go & handing them a court date heavily incentivized human trafficking of children, because a child was a golden ticket into the USA (and indeed, many children were trafficked as a result). To eliminate that incentive, deportation after an illegal crossing needs to be enforced, even when a child is in tow. I think that the best answer is detention as a family during the process of prosecution and deportation, but I understand that there are some legal hurdles to that. They need to work them out, and fast.

Re: Microsoft Employees Pressure Leadership to Cancel ICE Contract

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These people are asylum seekers. What they are doing is literally not illegal. According to USCIS, asylum seekers must be physically present in the US to apply: To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status. https://www.uscis.gov/humanitar…

The legal way to claim asylum is to do so from official points of entry.

So if you are out of resources, cross the border at another point and then seek asylum the proper response it to lock up your kids.
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