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A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Post by paddy_m »

henshao wrote: post #130
paddy_m wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is the full list zip | state | primary_city | substring | cls_st | cls_city | population | pop_50_m | dist_100k -------+-------+-----------------+------------+----------+-----------------+------------+-----------+----------- 99648 | AK | Perryville | Lake and P | Alaska | Anchorage | 300,950 | 362 | 494.97 04746 | ME | Grand Isle | Aroostook | New Hamp | Manchester | 110,378 | 40,131 | 338.27 58730 | ND | Crosby…

It might change your results if this were done based on drive times instead. I noticed because Chatham seems to be furthest from Boston radially, but Provincetown is definitely further by car.

Agree. I was just playing with distances and populations. Also I limited the max distance to 500 mi. Alaska certainly has further zipcodes. It was a fun exercise.

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Post by rhizome »

arethuza wrote: post #27
baxtr wrote: post #6

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Isolation is probably an important factor for the development of an accent

I grew up in a small fishing village in the north of Scotland - an area notorious for its very strong accents (to the point of some documentaries filmed locally having to be subtitled in English!). However, people who lived on farms spoke with a noticeably different accent (at least to the ears of locals) - even though they might be physically on a kilometer or two from the nearest village. NB This was in the 70s - I…

Even in populated areas there can be professional differences, my favorite being Pitmatic, a variation on the dialects of Northeast England that derives from coal miners. It is indeed disappearing, if not disappeared (along with most of the coal miners)

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Post by mintplant »

code_duck wrote: post #15
mintplant wrote: post #12

> Ironically, he adds, it’s a bit of an exclusive phrase itself: “It’s very rarely that I find someone from outside of Liberal using TFTI.” What? A simple web search will show this is quite common.

I think he means used in spoken communications.

It's common in spoken communications among my friends here in California (both NorCal and SoCal), with the same meaning and connotation as cited in the article.

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Post by clappski »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #73
skywhopper wrote: post #50

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Try googling "why latinx" and reading up on it. It's deeper than just gender-neutrality, and it's not just about being "sensical". Some here will dismiss it because there are political aspects to the choice. But I assume most people who comment on Hacker News under self-determined pseudonyms can respect the desire and the right of people to come up with labels for referring to themselves that make sense to them, what…

I read a few articles, and I can understand the viewpoint about how using latino and latina can be seen as problematic. I understood that before. But I don't understand why we don't just drop the o/a at the end and use "Latin". No article seems to explain this, and nobody here in HN has explained it either. I'm not trying to be argumentative for the sake of it, I genuinely don't understand what's wrong with simply us…

As another non-American, the ‘Latin America’ thing stinks of the ‘Oriental’ label that used to be applied to anyone from Far East Asia in the UK. I don’t understand why they aren’t just ‘South Americans’ or are addressed by their national identity, as they are in the UK.

(Of course, if the south/Central Americans want a shared ‘Latinx’ identity then good for them, this comment is more about how Americans (the ones from the USA) refer to them.)

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Post by mintplant »

drchickensalad wrote: post #36
huangbong wrote: post #18

Everyone and their mother uses TFTI. This is satire right?

I've been on the internet for 6+ hours a day for the past 15 years and I have literally never seen it.

As a test, I did a search through 20 MB of logs I have for a locale-specific San Diego IRC channel. I found 111 uses of "tfti". The earliest I have on file dates back to February 2016.

Maybe it's not ubiquitous, but it's certainly not a unique feature of Liberal, Kansas.

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Post by kazinator »

rconti wrote: post #117
oldcynic wrote: post #98

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> and I 100% thought that me and my friends did not have an accent of any kind whatsoever I suspect everyone thinks that. It's all those people from other parts of the world/country that have accents. :)

I'm 37 and I'm still perplexed that it rains some places in the summer.

It rains in the tropics, like in those tropical rainforests.

How about Maui: '"Big Bog," a spot on the edge of Haleakala National Park overlooking Hana at about 5,400 feet elevation had an estimated mean annual rainfall of 404.4 inches over the 30-year period of 1978 to 2007' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maui#Rainfall)

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Post by pests »

rconti wrote: post #117
oldcynic wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and I 100% thought that me and my friends did not have an accent of any kind whatsoever I suspect everyone thinks that. It's all those people from other parts of the world/country that have accents. :)

I'm 37 and I'm still perplexed that it rains some places in the summer.

Here I am from Michigan thinking "When else would it rain?!?!"

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Post by dmix »

atomicUpdate wrote: post #125

> “But we would find them not only among the Latinx youth but also among many of the white youth as well. It seems like these variants—because Liberal is now a Latinx-majority community—are just becoming the way this community sounds.” People actually use "Latinx"? Up until now I'd only seen that in discussions about it.

I was surprised to see that as well. I thought it was for particular group, not as a replacement for 'Latinos'.

Similar to people getting upset at using "guys" which the dictionary defines as referencing all genders, and only male when used as "guy". Latinos makes perfect common sense in the same way.

This seems like a bit of activism by the author rather than entirely necessary, especially considering it links to an article about "Gender Inclusivity" from within an article about Kansas accents... Unless I missed the notice that using "Latino-majority community" is no longer correct?

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Post by code_duck »

mintplant wrote: post #133
code_duck wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he means used in spoken communications.

It's common in spoken communications among my friends here in California (both NorCal and SoCal), with the same meaning and connotation as cited in the article.

It seems to me that everything in the article probably is. I suspected the author of provinciality, but according to her bio, she is very well-traveled.
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