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Does Elon Musk really understand Iain M Banks's 'utopian anarchist' Culture?

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Re: Does Elon Musk really understand Iain M Banks's 'utopian anarchist' Culture?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Culture world trapped power hungry would-be tyrants in deep ultra-realistic VR, indeed almost all competition went there IIRC. So maybe one day we could?

> The Culture world trapped power hungry would-be tyrants in deep ultra-realistic VR That's an interesting idea. What book was that described in? I've only read a couple of the Culture books.

http://www.vavatch.co.uk/books/banks/cultnote.htm

It was in his notes from '94 but mentioned in books along the way too, see the section starting with "megalomaniacal".

Re: Does Elon Musk really understand Iain M Banks's 'utopian anarchist' Culture?

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> a post-scarcity, hedonistic society where you could create your own drugs in your own body, change gender at will and where freedom was the highest and noblest sign of a civilisation. This sounds great, why can't we have it without all the bad stuff? The wonderful Ian M. Banks had to add conflict so it would make a page-turning novel: real-life isn't so constrained.

The Culture world trapped power hungry would-be tyrants in deep ultra-realistic VR, indeed almost all competition went there IIRC. So maybe one day we could?

Back in 1965, Stanislaw Lem wrote in his Cyberiad about a sadistic king who was given a virtual world to rule over. The king gleefully proceeded to torture its virtual inhabitants. Lem has a lot to say on the ethics of this.

You can read this remarkable story and Douglas Hofstadter's and Daniel Dennett's commentary on it here:

https://themindi.blogspot.com/2007/02/chapter-18-seventh-sal...

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