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A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Everyone and their mother uses TFTI. This is satire right?

I can disprove your theory in two ways: I do not use this acronym. And, neither does my mother. That’s two people to discredit your hypothesis. And both myself, and my mother, belong to the group called “everyone“.

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Everyone and their mother uses TFTI. This is satire right?

Online, perhaps. Not so much in spoken language.

It's also a case of youth driving language changes. People in their 40s and older likely wouldn't use Internet-born acronyms as spoken words, but younger folks might (and frequently do in my experience).

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isolation is probably an important factor for the development of an accent

I'm sure it may be, but physical isolation is certainly not a necessity. E.g. London has several separate recognisable accents ignoring the ones tied to specific ethnic groups. What physical isolation tends to give is much clearer lines - the London accents blur into each other a lot, and people moving around a lot makes it more a game of averages.

I agree. I live in Rhode Island, the smallest state I the US and we have multiple distinct accents that are clear to those who grow up here. Even from adjacent towns!

Many people in RI down even travel within the state very far.

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Ah, an article about my home state. It's worth pointing out how isolated this town is... Interstate doesn't even run through that part of the state, and the nearest 'big city' is hours away.

Isolation is probably an important factor for the development of an accent

I grew up in a small fishing village in the north of Scotland - an area notorious for its very strong accents (to the point of some documentaries filmed locally having to be subtitled in English!).

However, people who lived on farms spoke with a noticeably different accent (at least to the ears of locals) - even though they might be physically on a kilometer or two from the nearest village.

NB This was in the 70s - I suspect none of these communities are quite as insular as they used to be.

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Does anyone else find the whole 'Latinx' thing nonsensical? I understand the reasoning, it's about being gender neutral. But why don't they just knock the vowel off the end and just say 'Latin'?

How's it meant to be pronounced? Latinks?

According to a youtube video on the subject, Latin-ecks.

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Does anyone else find the whole 'Latinx' thing nonsensical? I understand the reasoning, it's about being gender neutral. But why don't they just knock the vowel off the end and just say 'Latin'?

I agree it is nonsensical, but I'd rather it stay as it used to be.

Through the usual meme grapevine I saw a tumblr post on reddit about this. Being gender neutral/genderless in this case is also actively ignoring Spanish linguistics (and arguably culture). Spanish is a gendered language like many others. It's not some patriarchal conspiracy to say Latino instead of Latina or vice versa, it's just how the language works. If I remember correctly as well, the gender neutral form would still be Latino.

Granted, they're being referred to through English here, which one could argue could benefit from just being 'Latin' (confusion between actual Latin aside). I'm of the opinion to keep loan words as close to the original as possible. Language changes over time but some words are still explicitly from elsewhere. So, keep it as Latino/Latina.

Re: A New Accent Is Developing in Southwest Kansas

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Everyone and their mother uses TFTI. This is satire right?

I've never heard or seen it until this moment.

I've not heard "tifty" but I've definitely heard the phrase, it's pretty widely used among people under 25 in the midwest.
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