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Re: Judges sentence youth offenders to chess, with promising results

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Post by mehrdadn »

omeid2 wrote: post #9
dschuetz wrote: post #5

"Every move has consequences" - That is absolutely brilliant! Is there any better way to explain such an abstract life concept to kids who can't see the consequences of whatever they do?

At the wake of all these concerns around video games, I am gonna risk it still and say Video Games. It teaches a lot about consequences. Perhaps not on par with chess, because, most popular games demands much less exercise in deliberation and strategic(/critical?) thinking.

What are the consequences? Respawning?

Re: Judges sentence youth offenders to chess, with promising results

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Post by omeid2 »

mehrdadn wrote: post #11
omeid2 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the wake of all these concerns around video games, I am gonna risk it still and say Video Games. It teaches a lot about consequences. Perhaps not on par with chess, because, most popular games demands much less exercise in deliberation and strategic(/critical?) thinking.

What are the consequences? Respawning?

Losing the game, you might get a few chance to respawn, but most games have some sort of scoring system. It is not much different than a game of Chess, in many ways.

Re: Judges sentence youth offenders to chess, with promising results

#13

Post by omeid2 »

ramblerman wrote: post #8

> In life, like chess, every move has a consequence. This is all pretty hyperbolic post-hoc reasoning. My guess is that against the alternative of juveniles just sitting in a cell and being neglected any program that stimulates them, invests time and effort into them, and gets them passionate is going to have promising results. disclaimer: I think this is a great result, and should be promoted but the pseudo-scientif…

How is making an analogy for action and consequence is hyperbolic post-hoc reasoning?

Re: Judges sentence youth offenders to chess, with promising results

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Post by c12 »

omeid2 wrote: post #3

Slightly off topic but I would like to mention that if you play chess online, the best one is lichess.org. It is free and opensource: https://github.com/ornicar/lila . I am unaffiliated but really like lichess.

Quite serendipitously you reminded me that lichess.org exists. Thank you for that.

Re: Judges sentence youth offenders to chess, with promising results

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Post by mehrdadn »

omeid2 wrote: post #12
mehrdadn wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the consequences? Respawning?

Losing the game , you might get a few chance to respawn, but most games have some sort of scoring system. It is not much different than a game of Chess, in many ways.

With chess at least you have to restart from the beginning, like starting your life over I guess, making you rethink your strategy. With video games you typically regain health and restart from the last save...

Re: Judges sentence youth offenders to chess, with promising results

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Post by mtgx »

omeid2 wrote: post #12
mehrdadn wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the consequences? Respawning?

Losing the game , you might get a few chance to respawn, but most games have some sort of scoring system. It is not much different than a game of Chess, in many ways.

Then you better save first.

Re: Judges sentence youth offenders to chess, with promising results

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ramblerman wrote: post #8

> In life, like chess, every move has a consequence. This is all pretty hyperbolic post-hoc reasoning. My guess is that against the alternative of juveniles just sitting in a cell and being neglected any program that stimulates them, invests time and effort into them, and gets them passionate is going to have promising results. disclaimer: I think this is a great result, and should be promoted but the pseudo-scientif…

I work in an industry which encourages ADD. Chess is one of the ways I maintain my attention span. My game tells me when I’m tired, stressed, inattentive or missing forests for trees.

Re: Judges sentence youth offenders to chess, with promising results

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Post by ramblerman »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #17
ramblerman wrote: post #8

> In life, like chess, every move has a consequence. This is all pretty hyperbolic post-hoc reasoning. My guess is that against the alternative of juveniles just sitting in a cell and being neglected any program that stimulates them, invests time and effort into them, and gets them passionate is going to have promising results. disclaimer: I think this is a great result, and should be promoted but the pseudo-scientif…

I work in an industry which encourages ADD. Chess is one of the ways I maintain my attention span. My game tells me when I’m tired, stressed, inattentive or missing forests for trees.

Me too. I notice a distinct drop in my tactic exercises when I'm underslept.

Not sure what that has to do with my initial point though.

Re: Judges sentence youth offenders to chess, with promising results

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Post by toomanybeersies »

In Australia, they have (or were) using flying lessons to try and rehabilitate drug addicts [1]. Apparently the idea was to stall the plane and have the patients recover from the stall, as a way of teaching them about taking control of their own life. I don't know what the long term results are, and it's part of a longer term rehab program so it would be hard to narrow it down specifically.

Regardless, it's an interesting approach. It's good to see that authorities are realising that the traditional approaches to addiction and criminal rehabilitiation are ineffective and trying other options.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-australia-43369891/austral...

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