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Studies find evidence that meditation is demotivating

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Re: Studies find evidence that meditation is demotivating

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My sample set is small, but I remain dubious about this study. Accomplished meditators are very rarely couch potatoes; they tackle things that need to tackled with calm, wisdom, and efficiency. True, motivations like "I don't want to yelled at.", or "I want more money.", or "I want to look good and smart to everybody." will go away or at least have less impact. But they are replaced by "How can I make this happier pl…

Although tour sample size is small, you are making the right conclusion out of it. If you don't meditate then you are trapped in the cycle of wanting confirmation and approval from others. After meditation you realise that it doesn't matter one bit what others think or say about you. Inner peace is all that matters.

I would argue that you should care what other people think about you if you're inclined towards selfish behavior or treating others poorly. Caring what others think would stop you from engaging in behavior that would result in you alienating yourself. Of course meditation should help you become more prosocial as well, but I don't think removing the need for confirmation/approval of others is going to help everyone.

Re: Studies find evidence that meditation is demotivating

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Although tour sample size is small, you are making the right conclusion out of it. If you don't meditate then you are trapped in the cycle of wanting confirmation and approval from others. After meditation you realise that it doesn't matter one bit what others think or say about you. Inner peace is all that matters.

I would argue that you should care what other people think about you if you're inclined towards selfish behavior or treating others poorly. Caring what others think would stop you from engaging in behavior that would result in you alienating yourself. Of course meditation should help you become more prosocial as well, but I don't think removing the need for confirmation/approval of others is going to help everyone.

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Re: Studies find evidence that meditation is demotivating

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Although tour sample size is small, you are making the right conclusion out of it. If you don't meditate then you are trapped in the cycle of wanting confirmation and approval from others. After meditation you realise that it doesn't matter one bit what others think or say about you. Inner peace is all that matters.

I would argue that you should care what other people think about you if you're inclined towards selfish behavior or treating others poorly. Caring what others think would stop you from engaging in behavior that would result in you alienating yourself. Of course meditation should help you become more prosocial as well, but I don't think removing the need for confirmation/approval of others is going to help everyone.

You are absolutely right. But I am not a snob, I am a socially awkward nerd so it did good to me when I begun ignoring how people judged me for

1. Reading books: wtf do you do? Read books? Why??? Don't you have a life? 2. You code in your free time? Wtf is wrong with you? 3. Why don't you dance with us? It is fun, you should.

Etx

Re: Studies find evidence that meditation is demotivating

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I would argue that you should care what other people think about you if you're inclined towards selfish behavior or treating others poorly. Caring what others think would stop you from engaging in behavior that would result in you alienating yourself. Of course meditation should help you become more prosocial as well, but I don't think removing the need for confirmation/approval of others is going to help everyone.

You are absolutely right. But I am not a snob, I am a socially awkward nerd so it did good to me when I begun ignoring how people judged me for 1. Reading books: wtf do you do? Read books? Why??? Don't you have a life? 2. You code in your free time? Wtf is wrong with you? 3. Why don't you dance with us? It is fun, you should. Etx

Oh, wow. I can't imagine being judged negatively for reading books. I read a lot and almost everyone I tell this to tells me they are impressed and wishes they read more themselves. Never apologize for reading, that just sounds crazy to me.

Re: Studies find evidence that meditation is demotivating

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That's a really good point. People work hard to try to justify to themselves why they're doing what they're doing, and that's exactly the kind of bs that meditation helps you reconsider and cut through.

No wonder the #1 question on Google Trends is "What am I doing with my life?"

Spoiler: that has been the number one question asked by sentients since sentience was a thing.

Re: Studies find evidence that meditation is demotivating

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You are absolutely right. But I am not a snob, I am a socially awkward nerd so it did good to me when I begun ignoring how people judged me for 1. Reading books: wtf do you do? Read books? Why??? Don't you have a life? 2. You code in your free time? Wtf is wrong with you? 3. Why don't you dance with us? It is fun, you should. Etx

Oh, wow. I can't imagine being judged negatively for reading books. I read a lot and almost everyone I tell this to tells me they are impressed and wishes they read more themselves. Never apologize for reading, that just sounds crazy to me.

I'm in India, ppl judge you for everything unless you do things they like.
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