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Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee

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Re: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee

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Post by taneq »

ucaetano wrote: post #34

We need to figure out if he was acting alone or with others at Tesla and if he was working with any outside organizations. As you know, there are a long list of organizations that want Tesla to die. These include Wall Street short-sellers, who have already lost billions of dollars and stand to lose a lot more. Then there are the oil & gas companies, the wealthiest industry in the world — they don't love the idea of T…

While there's paranoia going around, I wonder whether whoever leaked that email first checked it for hidden Unicode fingerprinting... :P

Re: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee

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Post by obelix_ »

ucaetano wrote: post #34

We need to figure out if he was acting alone or with others at Tesla and if he was working with any outside organizations. As you know, there are a long list of organizations that want Tesla to die. These include Wall Street short-sellers, who have already lost billions of dollars and stand to lose a lot more. Then there are the oil & gas companies, the wealthiest industry in the world — they don't love the idea of T…

Everyone these days is being overloaded with an amount of information -

they will never be trained to handle

that no previous generation has ever handled

What we are watching unfold across any and every issue, are symptoms of people breaking down due to that overload.

To handle this new over saturated info environment (which up until now has been sold to everyone as a good thing) one must look to professions that are trained specifically to handle such overload. And there are many.

Re: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee

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Post by wahern »

ucaetano wrote: post #34

We need to figure out if he was acting alone or with others at Tesla and if he was working with any outside organizations. As you know, there are a long list of organizations that want Tesla to die. These include Wall Street short-sellers, who have already lost billions of dollars and stand to lose a lot more. Then there are the oil & gas companies, the wealthiest industry in the world — they don't love the idea of T…

There's a $10+ billion short position against TSLA, constituting over 25% of outstanding shares. Anyone working at Tesla should be paranoid. Remember Enron? People invested deeply in something do criminally reprehensible things.

Much more importantly, Musk made very concrete allegations, the truth of which should come to light in short order. I remember the insinuation SpaceX made during the 2016 incident, which was much more circumspect. If this allegation proves false I don't think people will be as forgetful about the attempt at blame shifting.

Re: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee

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Post by yasp »

abc_lisper wrote: post #40
Fricken wrote: post #29

Ahh, the little man again. The little man has been giving Elon and Tesla problems for a long time. Early on Musk thought Henry Fisker, who led the design on the Model S then left to start his own EV company was the little man, so he launched a lawsuit against him, but it turned out Henry wasn't the little man, and the lawsuit was meritless. The little man talked Musk into building falcon wing doors into the Model X,…

News flash! Achieving great things is hard and everybody makes some mistakes along the way. On the way, they meet jokers who take great pride in laughing at their mistakes, because, let's be real, jokers are sore losers. Deep down they know they can't do 1% of that shit, and so yeah, let's lift a leg and piss on that fucker. That will show him!

Being founder / CEO of one industry disruptive company would be fine. Risky proposition under anyone's helm, yes, but Musk is a great salesman so he would stand a better chance than most of probably pulling it off. But no fewer than FOUR (Tesla, SpaceX, Boring Co, SolarCity (technically under Tesla's umbrella but for all intents and purposes its own business)), it starts to strain credulity.

Re: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee

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Post by pokemongoaway »

ucaetano wrote: post #34

We need to figure out if he was acting alone or with others at Tesla and if he was working with any outside organizations. As you know, there are a long list of organizations that want Tesla to die. These include Wall Street short-sellers, who have already lost billions of dollars and stand to lose a lot more. Then there are the oil & gas companies, the wealthiest industry in the world — they don't love the idea of T…

Everyone whose speech you don't like in 2018 is "literally" Trump, says the left and its proponents. What's your point, that his paranoia should be treated and he should hand his company over to the government? Either he is too careful in his speech or he is too paranoid - you can't have it both ways.

Re: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee

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Post by supergirl »

mrep wrote: post #35
nodesocket wrote: post #6

At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, perhaps a short-seller paid an employee to sabotage. It is not out of the realm of possibility, especially since $TSLA is at a whopping 33% float short.

According to the email from the article, the person has admitted to it and claimed it was due to promotional reasons. "The full extent of his actions are not yet clear, but what he has admitted to so far is pretty bad. His stated motivation is that he wanted a promotion that he did not receive. In light of these actions, not promoting him was definitely the right move."

> In light of these actions, not promoting him was definitely the right move

that's pretty short sighted cheesy hollywood movie reply. you can just get from this dismissing statement how much they care about their employees. a better reply would've been "we'll launch a review to see how it got to this point / what made this person behave this way".

Re: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee

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Post by naikrovek »

coldnose wrote: post #19

I concede it's possible that saboteurs are operating within Tesla, but lashing out at invisible enemies sends a strong "crazy" signal. Elon has been sending a lot of crazy signals lately...

Well the email said that the guy admitted to it, and did it because he was denied a promotion.

Not so invisible.

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