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YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by ben_w »

avs733 wrote: post #81
pitaj wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to some, YouTube's copyright filters / markers aren't good enough to satisfy the EU directive. It's insane. The DMCA is bad enough already. Copyright should be loosened, not tightened. Then maybe we'd see some competition in video hosting.

I've always felt like false assertion of copyright should cause the loss of copyright. Seems like a fair balance for me. And before someone gets on me...I realize that these are automated filters that are rarely asserted by the actual copyright holder.

I agree with the sentiment, but I think in practice that would lead to something like patent trolls — organizations designed no face no threat from the normal consequences.

Plain old money based fines should work. Even a tiny fixed fee of $50 per error might be enough, given the scale of the internet.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by larkeith »

avs733 wrote: post #81
pitaj wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to some, YouTube's copyright filters / markers aren't good enough to satisfy the EU directive. It's insane. The DMCA is bad enough already. Copyright should be loosened, not tightened. Then maybe we'd see some competition in video hosting.

I've always felt like false assertion of copyright should cause the loss of copyright. Seems like a fair balance for me. And before someone gets on me...I realize that these are automated filters that are rarely asserted by the actual copyright holder.

Or for a minimum starting point, the accusers should be obligated to compensate the victims for lost profits, as well as time cost. The current system of penalty-free reckless false assertions is insane.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by Dylan16807 »

earenndil wrote: post #68
Asooka wrote: post #64

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Well, let's say it takes 30 minutes to fully check for copyright compliance 10 minutes of video. This means that the speed of one person checking videos is 1/3 unchecked-minutes per minute, or 1/3upm. 400 hours of content are uploaded every minute to youtube, which makes for 24000upm. You will need to employ 96000 people 24/7 to check all videos. Of course, they can't work 24/7, so a more realistic figure is 150000 p…

Why not simply have humans review the videos that are automatically flagged? That would be a significant improvement over the current state of affairs, and would command a significantly more reasonable price.

At the very least do it for major accounts (4k hours a year). It's pretty ridiculous that pulling in hundreds of dollars won't get you even a 30 second review.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by volaski »

in the short term this is annoying, but in the long term I think this is really great. it's almost as if the market is pushing people to adopt decentralization technologies, which would have been difficult to get adoption without this type of push.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by yason »

tzs wrote: post #80
jedberg wrote: post #25

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I know the guy who created ContentID. He's a good guy and only had good intentions, namely to keep YouTube in business by identifying legit copyright issues. At the time, a human had to review all the claims. This is a good example of how AI can go bad.

Looking at the DMCA requirements, it doesn't appear like it would require a lot of human intervention. 1. Copyright owner provides written notification of the alleged infringement. The notification has to provide reasonably sufficient information to allow Google to locate the alleged infringing material; provide contact information for the claimant; include a statement that the claimant has a good faith believe that…

The ContentID system seems to be going far beyond what DMCA requires

AFAIK the content id system was built to monetise works on YouTube. The system must know where a song or a video is being included to direct advertising money to the original author if s/he wishes to participate in that scheme.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by craftyguy »

reitanqild wrote: post #82
craftyguy wrote: post #44

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That's awesome. I would like to build something similar, though maybe scaled down to 1/2 size/capacity. Did you follow their parts list exactly or deviate (e.g. what did you use for chassis since theirs is custom)?

> what did you use for chassis since theirs is custom FWIW, in addition to their awesome disk stats Backblaze also provides blueprints for their chassis as well as a BOM for the parts inside

> Backblaze also provides blueprints for their chassis

Wow, I had no idea they did that. I definitely have a new respect for them.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by RIMR »

no_wizard wrote: post #5
vezycash wrote: post #3

YouTube seems to be more of a monopoly than Google Search. If only Facebook created a dedicated site for Facebook videos. Fbtube, fbv.com... Microsoft has a YouTube like service but limits it to enterprise. Since video hosting is such a resource intensive undertaking, I wonder why many free porn sites don't have outages and have no limit on uploads for free users - unlike YouTube competitors.

What about Vimeo? I know it’s target market has pivoted to More high end indie creations however aren’t they somewhat positioned at least to exploit any holes in YouTube’s strategy? This is one of those things where I feel like a real competitor will only sort of be able to creep up not explode on the scene. I always thought Vimeo had a decent chance here because it’s pretty easy (imo) to use just like YouTube and th…

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see PornHub launch a YouTube competitor strategically as YouTube is flailing.

They already run a high functioning video network. They really just need a SFW frontend with alternate branding (and no adult videos).

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by cowpig »

haywirez wrote: post #20

As you might know, this is related to the disastrous EU copyright reform directive proposal that would mandate such filters put in place everywhere. Please don't be complacent, it's very important to do something about this. At risk of repeating my comment[0] from 3 days ago, I'd like to appeal to you to contact the MEPs that will vote on Wednesday in the EU's JURI committee. This was the first time I called politici…

Would you mind linking to some information about what the proposal is, why it's bad, what the alternatives are, etc?
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