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Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by zyxzevn »

haywirez wrote: post #20

As you might know, this is related to the disastrous EU copyright reform directive proposal that would mandate such filters put in place everywhere. Please don't be complacent, it's very important to do something about this. At risk of repeating my comment[0] from 3 days ago, I'd like to appeal to you to contact the MEPs that will vote on Wednesday in the EU's JURI committee. This was the first time I called politici…

I hope Google & Youtube will troll the EU and block all official state content for a while, until they see that this law is not working.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by test6554 »

zyxzevn wrote: post #91
haywirez wrote: post #20

As you might know, this is related to the disastrous EU copyright reform directive proposal that would mandate such filters put in place everywhere. Please don't be complacent, it's very important to do something about this. At risk of repeating my comment[0] from 3 days ago, I'd like to appeal to you to contact the MEPs that will vote on Wednesday in the EU's JURI committee. This was the first time I called politici…

I hope Google & Youtube will troll the EU and block all official state content for a while, until they see that this law is not working.

Google and YouTube have a more than $60 million solution in place that everyone hates. But that is more than potential competitors have. If it passes, they will surely benefit.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by darepublic »

ausjke wrote: post #8

google is dominated in search and youtube, both especially the latter, need a competitor, kind of burger-king to MacDonald

I'd like to think that the burger-king role is taken up already by Bing. Would be nice to have a truly 'better' search engine for the discerning folk

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by morganvachon »

icebraining wrote: post #12
amatecha wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice, do you have any summary of what process you take to back up channels? I've considered the same in the past, but found that there are a lot of crappy/sketchy plugins, and not too many legit/decent ones that actually get the highest quality copy of the content.

youtube-dl is great for this, you can run it periodically against a channel and only download new videos. See the --download-archive option. Using "-f best" will fetch the highest quality format, but you can be more specific with filters like "-f best[filesize<50M]".

I'll throw in my vote for youtube-dl as well. I love that it's so cross-platform; there's even a port for OpenBSD which makes it super easy to enjoy YT videos on that OS without having to run a resource-heavy browser, and it can be scripted.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by Tenoke »

haywirez wrote: post #20

As you might know, this is related to the disastrous EU copyright reform directive proposal that would mandate such filters put in place everywhere. Please don't be complacent, it's very important to do something about this. At risk of repeating my comment[0] from 3 days ago, I'd like to appeal to you to contact the MEPs that will vote on Wednesday in the EU's JURI committee. This was the first time I called politici…

Thanks for this - I wouldn't have gotten involved, but I believe I have a much higher chance to influence policy in this case than I've ever had after seeing Emil Radev's name, and I've now done everything in my power to sway him.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by doh »

Let me first say that this law is taking too far. There is a need for better legislation around copyright, but this one is just moving the needle from platforms abusing copyright to rights holders abusing the platforms.

However the situation around YouTube is not a direct consequence of poor technology, but rather poor policies. YouTube built 2 separate products, a) Content ID (CID), b) partnership program.

CID is the system that, based on fingerprinting algorithms, is able to identify videos containing same segments (both audio and visual). Technically it's actually pretty good. However through the partnership program, YouTube allows rights holders to abuse the system by providing reference files that they may not have direct rights for, or allow them to claim any content just because they say so.

This however has nothing to do with the technology itself, but rather with YouTube's decision to not to have to challenge right holders directly (they can and will sue, while users uploading content will most probably not).

There are ways to deal with this kind of situation, but most of the platforms, especially YouTube and Facebook are somehow not interested.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by gowld »

kazinator wrote: post #63
thomastjeffery wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's automated decision-making.

Any algorithm that produces a Boolean result is "automated decision making". You pop in the inputs, let the automaton run, and there is your yes or no.

Yes, that's right. The boundaries of AI are qualitative, not quantitative. AI can be simplistic or complex, dumb or smart.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by mjevans »

tzs wrote: post #80
jedberg wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know the guy who created ContentID. He's a good guy and only had good intentions, namely to keep YouTube in business by identifying legit copyright issues. At the time, a human had to review all the claims. This is a good example of how AI can go bad.

Looking at the DMCA requirements, it doesn't appear like it would require a lot of human intervention. 1. Copyright owner provides written notification of the alleged infringement. The notification has to provide reasonably sufficient information to allow Google to locate the alleged infringing material; provide contact information for the claimant; include a statement that the claimant has a good faith believe that…

The problem is a lack of liability for the content creators. Confusion can happen (such as particular renditions of a work who's basis is public domain information (IE a classical music score)), but willful lies should be punished with actual consequences.

Right now things are stacked entirely against one class of content creators (video creators). Additionally if I'm a public institution or someone else that's against having ads I can't control what happens during the contest period* (or so I've heard, it's never happened to me).

As someone that has posted a few 'how to do X' in software videos before, who believes that ads should be far more limited (like the old soap operas / PBS sponsors at the end of programs), I'd rather my videos were in 'hold on publishing limbo' while not under my control.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by zouhair »

rodorgas wrote: post #62
_bxg1 wrote: post #58

I don't understand why no other video platform has broken into YouTube's market share, after the last couple years' constant stream of PR disasters which mostly have to do with the scale of the platform

It’s so expensive that only Google can afford.

Pornhub is doing well.
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