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Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by avs733 »

pitaj wrote: post #75
haywirez wrote: post #20

As you might know, this is related to the disastrous EU copyright reform directive proposal that would mandate such filters put in place everywhere. Please don't be complacent, it's very important to do something about this. At risk of repeating my comment[0] from 3 days ago, I'd like to appeal to you to contact the MEPs that will vote on Wednesday in the EU's JURI committee. This was the first time I called politici…

According to some, YouTube's copyright filters / markers aren't good enough to satisfy the EU directive. It's insane. The DMCA is bad enough already. Copyright should be loosened, not tightened. Then maybe we'd see some competition in video hosting.

I've always felt like false assertion of copyright should cause the loss of copyright. Seems like a fair balance for me.

And before someone gets on me...I realize that these are automated filters that are rarely asserted by the actual copyright holder.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by reitanqild »

craftyguy wrote: post #44
toomuchtodo wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Built (several). My background in tech is ops/infrastructure/networking/devops.

That's awesome. I would like to build something similar, though maybe scaled down to 1/2 size/capacity. Did you follow their parts list exactly or deviate (e.g. what did you use for chassis since theirs is custom)?

> what did you use for chassis since theirs is custom

FWIW, in addition to their awesome disk stats Backblaze also provides blueprints for their chassis as well as a BOM for the parts inside

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by catach »

pitaj wrote: post #75
haywirez wrote: post #20

As you might know, this is related to the disastrous EU copyright reform directive proposal that would mandate such filters put in place everywhere. Please don't be complacent, it's very important to do something about this. At risk of repeating my comment[0] from 3 days ago, I'd like to appeal to you to contact the MEPs that will vote on Wednesday in the EU's JURI committee. This was the first time I called politici…

According to some, YouTube's copyright filters / markers aren't good enough to satisfy the EU directive. It's insane. The DMCA is bad enough already. Copyright should be loosened, not tightened. Then maybe we'd see some competition in video hosting.

Video competition certainly exists already [0]. But I agree that copyright terms are trending in the wrong direction.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by narrator »

simion314 wrote: post #38
reificator wrote: post #27

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I'm not demonizing the people making it, or even necessarily the people demanding it be made. The DMCA was the beginning of the end of a free and open internet, and now it's accelerating. I just hope the next generation understands what they're missing under the spectre of copyright law.

Humans are to blame for using horrible AI/software. At least if you know your AI is that broken then have some human supervision.

The real problem is when the task is no longer doable by Humans. Then the AIs have taken over and we can't turn them off. Imagine what happens when the AIs run our cars and food production, security, etc. We will be unable to turn them off and they will be unaccountable except to the people who set their policy which will be mired no doubt in layers of deep obscurity.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by narrator »

vezycash wrote: post #3

YouTube seems to be more of a monopoly than Google Search. If only Facebook created a dedicated site for Facebook videos. Fbtube, fbv.com... Microsoft has a YouTube like service but limits it to enterprise. Since video hosting is such a resource intensive undertaking, I wonder why many free porn sites don't have outages and have no limit on uploads for free users - unlike YouTube competitors.

There's also bitchute.com and d.tube as credible youtube alternatives.

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Post by jstanley »

mygo wrote: post #79
simion314 wrote: post #38

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Humans are to blame for using horrible AI/software. At least if you know your AI is that broken then have some human supervision.

today in order to do a Google search I had to prove to Google that I wasn’t a robot. And even though I did it right the second time, they still made me do it a third time. I just remember sitting there going, Google, I actually am a human and your AI sucks so if I have to tap on storefronts and cars one more time to do a freaking Google search then I’m just using Bing.

It's partly checking that you're a human.

It's partly using you for free labour to train their next generation of SkyNet.

We've reached a point with CAPTCHAs (originally conceived as a way for humans to exert their will over machines) where the machines are now setting tasks for the humans, and the humans are carrying out the tasks without putting up too much of a fight.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by asdgionion »

ravenstine wrote: post #4

I know this is just filtering for now, but I've been backing up entire channels for fear they'll one day disappear because global policy or legacy media conglomerates won't allow for it. I imagine the "you" in YouTube will be mostly gone in the next decade. The writing's on the wall.

Maybe we should formalize this process. If everyone just rips the videos they want we'd wind up with a bunch of silos. There would be important videos overlooked, a huge amount of duplicated effort and, most importantly, only you could view your archived videos.

I think the technical problems would be solvable. youtube-dl and existing peer-to-peer filesharing systems have done most of the work for us. Making a system to browse videos would be harder. We'd need working channels, playlists, and links. We'd need search functionality. Those don't cleanly fit into normal filesharing.

The problem would be the social side. It would take a lot of volunteers to archive a substantial chunk of Youtube and would most definitely be against the law.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by jwilk »

ravenstine wrote: post #33
icebraining wrote: post #12

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youtube-dl is great for this, you can run it periodically against a channel and only download new videos. See the --download-archive option. Using "-f best" will fetch the highest quality format, but you can be more specific with filters like "-f best[filesize<50M]".

Yeah, I'm basically doing what you describe: `youtube-dl -f best -citw -v ` If I recall, that's going to ignore errors. At an airport right now so I can't remember exactly what those flags are.

youtube-dl has this in their FAQ:

> Do I always have to pass -citw?

> By default, youtube-dl intends to have the best options (incidentally, if you have a convincing case that these should be different, please file an issue where you explain that ( https://yt-dl.org/bug )). Therefore, it is unnecessary and sometimes harmful to copy long option strings from webpages. In particular, the only option out of -citw that is regularly useful is -i.

But OK, here's explantion of the options you used:

• -f best: Select the best quality format represented by a single file with video and audio. (By default, yt-dl will merge best video with best audio if that's what's available.)

• -c: Force resume of partially downloaded files. (By default, yt-dl will resume downloads if possible.)

• -i: Continue on download errors, for example to skip unavailable videos in a playlist.

• -t: Use title in file name. (Deprecated. This is the default.)

• -w: Do not overwrite files.

• -v: Print various debugging information.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by nkrisc »

ravenstine wrote: post #57
nkrisc wrote: post #42

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Out of curiosity, what sorts of channels/content are you backing up?

People have a tendency to misundertand everything I do, so I'd rather not get into specifics, but in summary: - Intellectual discussions - Fan made instrumentals and remixes (especially for Rammstein) - Found footage, old shows, and other nostalgic material from VHS tapes. (wouldn't surprise me if they get flagged for having Folgers commercials from 1993) - Random funny videos with swearing or vulgar language Not a w…

That definitely seems like the kind of content that would end up getting removed, but ironically is the kind of the content that services like YouTube grew up on.

Re: YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More

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Post by _jgvg »

ausjke wrote: post #8

google is dominated in search and youtube, both especially the latter, need a competitor, kind of burger-king to MacDonald

Any competitor that gets big enough to challenge YT will attract the same scrutiny from content rights owners. and will face the same copyright issues that YT does.

The problem isn't in the content hosting industry, it isn't even on the content producing industry. It is on the policy & legal side.

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