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Wi-fi is an important threat to human health

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Re: Wi-fi is an important threat to human health

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Post by LinuxBender »

currymj wrote: post #19

it's important to note that the nih.gov domain doesn't mean this is endorsed in any way by the NIH. (In case you were very shocked, like I was.) It's just a link to PubMed, which is an aggregator of journal articles hosted by the NIH's National Library of Medicine. Nearly any life sciences article published in any kind of journal, good or bad, would end up with an abstract on here. Evaluate it on its own merits.

I can second this. Having done extensive research on gut health for my own issues, I have read everything nih.gov has to offer. Some articles are based on proper scientific method and decent numbers of test subjects and controlled environments. There are also plenty of papers based on pseudo-science, dogmas and hearsay. After reading through every article they had to offer, it became apparent which articles I could borrow from for my own research and my own health.

I would love to see nih.gov implement a voting and discussion system similar to HN so that folks can debate the poor quality research and improve upon the good research.

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Post by adfm »

This is sensationalist. Wi-Fi is a brand based around a protocol. If they're talking about low power microwave transmission, they'll have to include cell phones, microwave ovens, and everything else. Not to say RF can't be dangerous, but something like this just feeds the tin hat folks (which, BTW are just big wave guides. You'll need to wrap yourself like a potato for best results ;)

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Post by thinkcomp »

hprotagonist wrote: post #35

https://www.nutricology.com/martin-pall-products/ i wonder if his medicines can help? ... single-author papers scream "crank" to me.

Agreed. He also thinks electromagnetic waves cause autism (and he's not an MD).

http://www.autismone.org/content/martin-l-pall-ba-phd-autism...

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Post by LinuxBender »

NickBusey wrote: post #15
kyle_v wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ethernet?

Let's assume I turn off all the WiFi devices in my house and only hard wire things. I can still see at least 7 WiFi networks from my neighbor's houses. Not to mention public spaces. I don't really think there is any way to avoid WiFi in most modern nations.

There are paints and other materials that can block the signals. Even wire mesh added to the insulation can block signals.

Re: Wi-fi is an important threat to human health

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Post by reacweb »

pasta wrote: post #33
Odenwaelder wrote: post #23

So are cars. The question is: Do we want to turn off Wifi for a minor health benefit?

That's the wrong question. A better question could be: Can we replace it with something better? Just like we are replacing combustion engines with electric engines.

Where can I buy a phone with an RJ45 plug ?

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Post by lambda »

classichasclass wrote: post #18

I find this paper rather flawed (article link: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001393511... ). I don't claim to be an expert on EMF effects on the human body, but I interpret his core claim to be that because the seven effect studies he cites had insufficient power to determine there was no correlation, there must be correlation because "similar" EMF studies did show a response, and therefore the e…

Also, if you check some of the citations that he lists for dangers of microwave-range radiation (you can click through to the full text of the article), they are things like studies of naval ships, in which the microwave radiation would be at much higher power levels than that which your Wi-Fi router is emitting.

This is full-on crank territory here.

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Post by sbjustin »

currymj wrote: post #19

it's important to note that the nih.gov domain doesn't mean this is endorsed in any way by the NIH. (In case you were very shocked, like I was.) It's just a link to PubMed, which is an aggregator of journal articles hosted by the NIH's National Library of Medicine. Nearly any life sciences article published in any kind of journal, good or bad, would end up with an abstract on here. Evaluate it on its own merits.

Do you have a citation by any chance? I completely believe you (Because I've seen some things that appear untrue) but want to have it to use as supporting evidence in a debate.

Re: Wi-fi is an important threat to human health

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Post by NickBusey »

LinuxBender wrote: post #45
NickBusey wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's assume I turn off all the WiFi devices in my house and only hard wire things. I can still see at least 7 WiFi networks from my neighbor's houses. Not to mention public spaces. I don't really think there is any way to avoid WiFi in most modern nations.

There are paints and other materials that can block the signals. Even wire mesh added to the insulation can block signals.

That plan works assuming I never leave my house.
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