Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
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Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
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Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#2"...ending...": in fact, it has just begun..
There's a long way until this 'agreement' becomes a 'reality' (referendum and constitutional changes in FYROM and then vote in both parliaments). But most importantly the will of the people has been ignored so only the near future will show what will actually happen.
For a historical reference about this issue and the Greek identity of Macedonia: https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/6265/was-alexand...
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#3Now that Greece recognizes Macedonias heritage as it's own, it's time to pay back reperations to Turkey, Iran and India for plundering and killing by Alexander the Great.
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#4"...ending...": in fact, it has just begun.. There's a long way until this 'agreement' becomes a 'reality' (referendum and constitutional changes in FYROM and then vote in both parliaments). But most importantly the will of the people has been ignored so only the near future will show what will actually happen. For a historical reference about this issue and the Greek identity of Macedonia: https://history.stackexcha…
Which will of which people was ignored?
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#5"...ending...": in fact, it has just begun.. There's a long way until this 'agreement' becomes a 'reality' (referendum and constitutional changes in FYROM and then vote in both parliaments). But most importantly the will of the people has been ignored so only the near future will show what will actually happen. For a historical reference about this issue and the Greek identity of Macedonia: https://history.stackexcha…
Which will of which people was ignored?
Both.
Nationalist Greeks are angry and so do nationalist Makedonians.
I would think both countries have more important things to protest about than name change, but then I don't live on Balkans.
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which will of which people was ignored?
Both. Nationalist Greeks are angry and so do nationalist Makedonians. I would think both countries have more important things to protest about than name change, but then I don't live on Balkans.
Will of the people != will of the nationalists.
Can’t really say the will of the people is being ignored when referenda are planned, referenda which one can reasonably still presume will be binding.
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which will of which people was ignored?
Both. Nationalist Greeks are angry and so do nationalist Makedonians. I would think both countries have more important things to protest about than name change, but then I don't live on Balkans.
Things like these are, sadly, very important in the Balkans sigh
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#8Isn't it ironic that things like Mickey Mouse are super copyrighted that even if you name your son that you will get in trouble. On the other hand things like historical references(Macedonia) are up for grabs by anyone and they even attract supporters of the type "self naming is a right"..
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#9So can Luxembourg claim the Belgian province of Luxembourg back then?
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which will of which people was ignored?
Both. Nationalist Greeks are angry and so do nationalist Makedonians. I would think both countries have more important things to protest about than name change, but then I don't live on Balkans.
the first part of your last sentence: Welcome to Balkans!