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Re: Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox

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Companies focus on buying content while ignoring the quality of the broadcast experience. I am tired of competitors that skimp on this.

Netflix doesn’t shove ads in your face, works on every platform and almost never has mysterious transmission failures. And now they have excellent content too. They have figured out so much more than some of the last-century providers.

Re: Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox

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> Off to a torrent site or asking around to see if someone has rips or a box set. The other option is to just not watch it.

The down voting you’re getting is emblematic of the entitlement mentality among tech folks when it comes to content. There is no right to consume entertainment someone else produced for free. If you don’t like the terms on which they’re selling the fruits of their labor, don’t buy it.

If that feeling went both ways I could agree. Companies however, obviously don't like not controlling everything the public has and do things like increase copyright to a length that their own company would have never started(Disney), or try to claim that users no longer own products they buy and can no longer repair things themselves (John Deere).

Companies have already taken multiple sustained attacks against consumers rights so why would consumers care about the companies rights?

Re: Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox

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These companies are obsessed with fragmenting the market for the sake of owning content from production to delivery. I have bad news for them: you're going to lose. People don't want to go back to paying $100/month for a dozen streaming "channels" with one or two good shows and a the same crap the rest of the other "channels" have. We want an on-demand nexus. A single hub. Just the other day I had the urge to watch g…

> Just the other day I had the urge to watch ghost in the shell. Not available on any of the major streaming sites (Netflix, Hulu, Prime) but available on stars via prime ... Off to a torrent site or asking around to see if someone has rips or a box set. I have better things to do with $7 like buy dinner Or you could have rented the Blu-ray at Redbox for $2 (or streamed it from Redbox for $5).

I recently started collecting blu-rays. A lot of them are available for $5-6 and I like having a shelf and feeling some sense of ownership over them (bizzare DRM aside[1]). Best Buy has a bargain bin with some gems, Book-off in NYC has a nice wall of $4-10 used blu-rays too, and I’m sure other places do too.

[1]: With BD+, the disc maker adds artifacts into the bitstream, and then includes executable code for a VM that can look around, see if it is satisfied with its environment, and correct the artifacts. Seriously. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BD%2B

Re: Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox

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Most of these services are the same a la carte premium channels that already existed 10 years ago for roughly the same price (HBO, Starz, Cinemax, and Showtime). Little has changed except the content delivery mechanism and availability of content on demand.

> Little has changed except the content delivery mechanism and availability of content on demand. What? You don't need to pay $100 for cable anymore, how is it that nothing has changed? Anyway, I think arguing with you is pointless, pirates will always find a way to justify their behavior.

Right, now you spend for Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, HBO, Showtime, Stars, CBS, and soon Disney. Plus Crunchyroll if you like anime, plus a sports package for sports.

If this keeps going $100 will seem like a bargain, and piracy will surge.

I also think it’s rude and out of line to tell someone that arguing with them is pointless. Do the mature thing and just stop responding, or the even more useful thing and actually try to have the conversation.

Re: Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox

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post #49
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Off to a torrent site or asking around to see if someone has rips or a box set. The other option is to just not watch it.

The down voting you’re getting is emblematic of the entitlement mentality among tech folks when it comes to content. There is no right to consume entertainment someone else produced for free. If you don’t like the terms on which they’re selling the fruits of their labor, don’t buy it.

I down-voted them for stating the obvious and adding nothing of value to the discussion.

Either way, it doesn't take an 'entitlement mentality' to prefer paying less for something. That's just good sense. And lots of people do pay for entertainment with the expectation that they can share it with people. Humanity has spent its entire history freely sharing things that grab our social fancy and percolate through our cultural attentions. Just because a business wants to make money doesn't mean they have a right to deny the basic workings of the human brain.

>If you don’t like the terms on which they’re selling the fruits of their labor, don’t buy it.

I'm pretty sure finding someone else who has access to it involves not buying it. Next thing you'll be telling me I have a moral obligation to not watch my sister's Breaking Bad DVD's with her. Or worse: a legal obligation.

Re: Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox

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I think maybe the title could use some punctuation or reworking > Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner... Ok, yes, they bought Time Warner > Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner and Comcast... They bought Comcast too? > Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner and Comcast and Disney... And Disney!? > Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner and Comcast and Disney want Fox AT&T bought Time Warner and Comcast; Disney w…

>Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox. The comma after the 'and' in English lists allows us to apply 'why' to both "AT&T bought Time Warner" and "Comcast and Disney want Fox"

This is called the Oxford comma, if I’m not mistaken.

Re: Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox

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These companies are obsessed with fragmenting the market for the sake of owning content from production to delivery. I have bad news for them: you're going to lose. People don't want to go back to paying $100/month for a dozen streaming "channels" with one or two good shows and a the same crap the rest of the other "channels" have. We want an on-demand nexus. A single hub. Just the other day I had the urge to watch g…

"We want an on-demand nexus."

up until a point ... HBO has been all about the entire pipeline from its inception because it feels (and has proven) that its content alone is good enough for it to be purchased a la carte.

Netflix and all others see this and say ... theres a business model here.

Fastforward 20 years, creating good content is cheaper. There are more film grad students to make the supply cheaper. Add to that the internet which allows you to be your own distributor. Basically its easier to be HBO today than when HBO started and you still get the added profits that HBO gets vs not generating your own content.

We want a hub but well take what we can get as long as the content is good. And we will get custom content because we have shown it pays. I guess we dont want the hub enough.

Re: Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox

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Companies focus on buying content while ignoring the quality of the broadcast experience. I am tired of competitors that skimp on this. Netflix doesn’t shove ads in your face, works on every platform and almost never has mysterious transmission failures. And now they have excellent content too. They have figured out so much more than some of the last-century providers.

and yet they still make mind boggling losses with no end in sight. I think in the next 10 years Netflix will serve as a reality check that shows why content creators have had to resort to their ugly business practices.

Re: Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox

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Or streamed it from Google Play for $2

How does any of this change the OP's point about fragmentation of the market? It does nothing to benefit the consumer, the competition is not lowering prices, so why would consumers not go back to piracy when it results in a superior product?

because we are not cheap and are ok with paying for a service.

How cheap should it be. There will be no service that people will pay for if they pirate content. The service they want is a service where they dont have to pay.

If you are pirating you are not a customer. Any business man should not be concerned with trying to gain your market, its not profitable.

Re: Netflix Is Why AT&T bought Time Warner, and Comcast and Disney want Fox

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Or streamed it from Google Play for $2

How does any of this change the OP's point about fragmentation of the market? It does nothing to benefit the consumer, the competition is not lowering prices, so why would consumers not go back to piracy when it results in a superior product?

Some of us have this bizarre wish to support the companies and people who produce things we enjoy even if they sometimes make it difficult.
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