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Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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Post by freehunter »

e40 wrote: post #111
jambutters wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use phone speaker or sleep with headphones?

If headphones, I'd be curious which ones. All the ones I've tried give me a headache after a few hours.

I've slept with LG Tone headphones as well as Beats X. I'd say the LG Tone was more comfortable to sleep with, since the connection to the neck part is very thin and moves around easily, and the neck part is free to move around loosely as you move. It never seems to get in the way, and the buds aren't ripped out. The BeatsX had a bigger problem with their stiffer neck part, if I moved they'd be pulled from my ears. Plus their at-best 8 hour battery life doesn't always last a full night, so I've been woken up by the sudden lack of white noise.

Then again, when the Tone dies, it screams "LOW BATTERY PLEASE CHARGE NOW" at you over and over again, which might wake you up :)

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Post by vagab0nd »

f_allwein wrote: post #27
telesilla wrote: post #23

If there is one thing in this world I'd like to see, it's the worker's right for an afternoon nap: I really would become highly anxious if deprived long-term of my siesta. I've been lucky in most of my environments to find somewhere to close my eyes and sleep for 10-15 minutes - I just need somewhere to lie down or recline and something to block the light: if I'm tired enough sound doesn't bother me. Some people tell…

Quite common in China, actually.

Yes. I remember in the 90s when I was in kindergarten, a 1-hour afternoon nap is "mandatory". I hated it.

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Post by tonyarkles »

beeforpork wrote: post #84

> ...misconceptions... Even that eating cheese before snoozing causes nightmares. Stilton definitely does cause weird dreams -- the fungus in it is psychoactive, I am absolutely sure of it.

Man... some Rarebit an hour or two before going to bed (eggs, cheese, mustard, Worcestershire and a couple other spices)... that is a guaranteed way for me to have totally messed up dreams. They’re generally not nightmares so much as super vivid and weird.

At least I’m not the only one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_of_the_Rarebit_Fiend

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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Post by AstralStorm »

amelius wrote: post #110
eanzenberg wrote: post #105

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I wouldn’t be surprised if needing more sleep is a competitive advantage. Increased brain activity leads to increased garbage collection and resetting.

Perhaps the short-sleepers have a concurrent garbage collector ;)

Or just more garbage. The trait might not really be adaptive - the cost might be worse memory for example.

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Post by Asooka »

coldtea wrote: post #65
rdiddly wrote: post #46

Zeitgeber isn't "like totally this weird German word OMG." (Foreign languages aren't, as a rule, inherently super fucked up just because you don't speak them.) It just means "time-giver" - a cue (like the sunrise) that tells your body what time it is.

> Foreign languages aren't, as a rule, inherently super fucked up just because you don't speak them No, but German kinda is. It almost always sounds like someone in authority is screaming at you :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIMvXpw0t0

Only to Americans and some Englishmen. As an Eastern European, German sounds fine to me. Perhaps you are the weird ones :)

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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Post by pacaro »

AstralStorm wrote: post #125
amelius wrote: post #110

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Perhaps the short-sleepers have a concurrent garbage collector ;)

Or just more garbage. The trait might not really be adaptive - the cost might be worse memory for example.

Anecdote time. I know one person who matches the description of someone with the gene for not needing sleep. He’s an extremely high functioning individual.

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Post by rosstex »

coldtea wrote: post #68
rosstex wrote: post #4

>A professor I collaborate with at Penn State named Orfeu Buxton says that 8.5 hours of sleep is the new eight hours. In order to get a healthy eight hours of sleep, which is the amount that many people need, you need to be in bed for 8.5 hours. So, the title is misleading. It means you should lie in bed for 8.5 hours in order to actually be asleep for 8 hours. That said, this article has plenty of good insight and i…

> So, the title is misleading. It means you should lie in bed for 8.5 hours in order to actually be asleep for 8 hours. No, the title is not misleading. Sleep is not just the time you're actually asleep. It's the whole time that you're in bed. If you are in bed for only 8 hours a night, do you account for the times you woke up mid-sleep and went to have a piss, for example?

Ah, I assumed that was obvious.

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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Post by coldtea »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #67
coldtea wrote: post #65

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> Foreign languages aren't, as a rule, inherently super fucked up just because you don't speak them No, but German kinda is. It almost always sounds like someone in authority is screaming at you :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIMvXpw0t0

It really doesn't. If anything German is a fairly soft, camp-sounding language. The whole shouting thing seems to be based on World War II stereotypes.

>It really doesn't. If anything German is a fairly soft, camp-sounding language

Not for us non-Germans listening to it (though the video exaggerates of course). There's a reason behind the stereotype, and that's not WWII.

Even the mere written form of the words is more somber and threatening looking: schmetterling vs butterfly or farfala for example, or Wissenschaft vs science.

Can't compare with something like Italian or French.

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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Post by coldtea »

Asooka wrote: post #126
coldtea wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Foreign languages aren't, as a rule, inherently super fucked up just because you don't speak them No, but German kinda is. It almost always sounds like someone in authority is screaming at you :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIMvXpw0t0

Only to Americans and some Englishmen. As an Eastern European, German sounds fine to me. Perhaps you are the weird ones :)

As a European myself, I still find German non-melodic and menacing compared.

Besides, "only to Americans and some Englishmen"? Ask a frenchman, an Italian, or a spaniard about how German sound to them...

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