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Success is All in a Day's Work

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Re: Success is All in a Day's Work

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the more I interact with the business world the more I realize that there are talkers and there are doers. You become successful not just by being a doer, but by surrounding yourself with other doers.

The nice thing about doers is that it's very easy to spot if you know what you're looking for.

Re: Success is All in a Day's Work

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Ah yes, fluffy pablum from the man who stared in Expelled, the movie about why big science is a big conspiracy to keep down THE TRUTH about intelligent design.

Are his words any less valid because of that?

Yes. It isn't exactly a challenge to find great artists and writers who worked prodigiously through their lives and remained poor. I'm sure Vincent van Gogh appreciates Stein's patronizing explanation of how the world works though.

Re: Success is All in a Day's Work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are his words any less valid because of that?

Yes. It isn't exactly a challenge to find great artists and writers who worked prodigiously through their lives and remained poor. I'm sure Vincent van Gogh appreciates Stein's patronizing explanation of how the world works though.

true, many great people worked hard throughout their lives and still never achieved success in their lifetime. But on the other hand I can't think of a single great personality who made it WITHOUT real hardwork.

Re: Success is All in a Day's Work

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Ah yes, fluffy pablum from the man who stared in Expelled, the movie about why big science is a big conspiracy to keep down THE TRUTH about intelligent design.

I don't agree with 100% with Ben Stein on everything (ex his new movie), but research does back his article (old YC post):

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19125691.300

"It's complicated explaining how genius or expertise is created and why it's so rare. But it isn't magic, and it isn't born. These people don't necessarily have an especially high IQ... And the one thing they always have is this incredible investment of effort."

Re: Success is All in a Day's Work

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Ah yes, fluffy pablum from the man who stared in Expelled, the movie about why big science is a big conspiracy to keep down THE TRUTH about intelligent design.

Its not that theres a conspiracy its just that sometimes when you have a structure in place its hard for it to change or improve. Does the US government even have a group of people working on just that topic? Surely the three main branches of government can't be the final word. Alan Kay talks about glorious cathedral structures in Smalltalk and a similar structure has set in with science, where researchers are careful with how they write their papers to the point where a mis step could have them falling from the rafters, career wise.

Re: Success is All in a Day's Work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. It isn't exactly a challenge to find great artists and writers who worked prodigiously through their lives and remained poor. I'm sure Vincent van Gogh appreciates Stein's patronizing explanation of how the world works though.

true, many great people worked hard throughout their lives and still never achieved success in their lifetime. But on the other hand I can't think of a single great personality who made it WITHOUT real hardwork.

Maybe (I am not a historian). But it is a trivial statement that working harder is the road to success. Also, perhaps as a 30 year old you should hang out in bars at times nevertheless. What is he supposed to write about?

Still - this work harder thing is like the dieting tips in women's magazines. We've all heard it about 1000 times before, but somehow we still need to be reminded of it from time to time.

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