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Segway boss Jimi Heselden dies in scooter cliff fall

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Re: Segway boss Jimi Heselden dies in scooter cliff fall

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I took a Segway tour in Chicago this summer. Part of the tour takes you by the water. I asked out guide if a segwayer had ever fallen in - the answer was yes, sort of. They did lose a Segway in the lake, but the user jumped off before going in herself. The worse accident they had ever had was when a guy went over the front, smashing his face, after using it incorrectly and accidentally enabled an auto-stop mechanism,…

In 2008 I had just founded a textbook-selling website, and one of the first schools we went to was University of Illinois- Urbana/Champaigne. We had a genius marketing idea: rent a Segway and ride it around campus handing out fake dollar bills that had our information on it You can see the example here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4971801/Illinois%20Heads1.jpg ). Not only could we move around campus faster, but we would…

> 4) Don't ride a Segway around U of I in January.

I'm so very sorry for you! Didn't it ring a bell for anyone where you work that outdoors + Chicago area + January = frostbite? No wonder the place rented you a Segway! You don't see a lot of Segway tours in January (or people outdoors if they don't have to be).

Re: Segway boss Jimi Heselden dies in scooter cliff fall

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Neither tragic nor ironic, IMO: http://raganwald.posterous.com/the-tragic-and-ironic-death-o...

The common use of tragic is more general than the literary term, and any premature death of an admired or innocent person is reasonably tragic . This situation is arguably ironic, with a few reasonable assumptions: the Heselden believed and promoted the Segway as safe, that one motivation for his fatal final excursion was to be ready with personal experience and stories about its safe and exciting use, and so forth.…

I'm familiar with the common use, and even there I demur. He was a mature man who was using and adventure model segway to travel off-road. Death by misadventure may be statistically unlikely, but it is not unexpected. Furthermore, in his life he was able to accomplish a great deal, and while he may have gone on to accomplish even more, I trust that we can look at his life without a massive sense of what-might-have-been.

Compare and contrast to the "tragic" death of Jimmy Blanton, Duke Ellington's bassist for just two years. Blanton is credited (or blamed if you prefer) with inventing the Bass Solo, but at age 23 he died of tuberculosis. Thus, the world was deprived of the bulk of his career and looking at his short life one wonders what Jazz might have been like had he played for five decades like Ray Brown, a man he inspired.

The tragedy of Blanton's death was that it was significantly premature. Naturally the bereaved think that Mr. Heselden's death was also premature, but we must draw a line somewhere, otherwise every death is tragic and the word means nothing at all.

So Blaton's death was tragic in comparison because of how premature it was and how much of his productive genius was lost. That being said, the cause of Jimmy Blanton's death was not extraordinary given the health issues affecting many from his social class at the time.

This is different than Scott LaFaro, another pioneering Jazz Bassist who died "tragically," however Scott's death was in an automobile accident, an unexpected incident. Scott's career was cut short and it was cut short in an unexpected fashion, another mark of a "tragedy" in the sense you promote. Mr. Heselden's death was anything but unexpected. If a man sets out to seek adventure in wild places, he and everyone around him must accept the risk that he will not survive.

If I am to die while Scuba diving, could we really call that a tragedy? What caprice of fate can we blame for a man who is killed when he deliberately immerses himself in an environment hostile to air-breathing life?

This watered-down use of the word "tragic" no longer carries much meaning, if any. I get that it's the style (especially in America) to say that since English is a "living language," it is defined by whatever meaning the vox populi care to give it. But while I respect your point that there's more than one way to use the word, I feel that even this lesser meaning does not apply to a mature, accomplished businessman who died while knowingly engaging in a risky activity.

Re: Segway boss Jimi Heselden dies in scooter cliff fall

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It might be worth pointing out that the person who died is not the inventor of the Segway, that would be Dean Kamen. I'm not saying that anyone claimed it was, but just pointing it out to avoid confusion.

For what it's worth, he did invent (or entrepreneured, it isn't clear) the hesco bastion, which according to the former marine sitting next to me was something the troops really liked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesco_bastion

We used HESCOs (Concertainer) in Fargo for flood control a couple of years ago. Not the perfect solution, but there's no way we would have been able to get up that much flood barrier in so little time without them.

It's one of those inventions that's so simple you wonder why it didn't already exist.

Re: Segway boss Jimi Heselden dies in scooter cliff fall

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It might be worth pointing out that the person who died is not the inventor of the Segway, that would be Dean Kamen. I'm not saying that anyone claimed it was, but just pointing it out to avoid confusion.

For what it's worth, he did invent (or entrepreneured, it isn't clear) the hesco bastion, which according to the former marine sitting next to me was something the troops really liked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesco_bastion

Apparently, they even have a version that can be rapidly deployed.

Pretty impressive.

See video. http://www.hesco.com/raid/

Re: Segway boss Jimi Heselden dies in scooter cliff fall

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2008 I had just founded a textbook-selling website, and one of the first schools we went to was University of Illinois- Urbana/Champaigne. We had a genius marketing idea: rent a Segway and ride it around campus handing out fake dollar bills that had our information on it You can see the example here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4971801/Illinois%20Heads1.jpg ). Not only could we move around campus faster, but we would…

> 4) Don't ride a Segway around U of I in January. I'm so very sorry for you! Didn't it ring a bell for anyone where you work that outdoors + Chicago area + January = frostbite? No wonder the place rented you a Segway! You don't see a lot of Segway tours in January (or people outdoors if they don't have to be).

It was my idea to go there and Segway it up. We chose the U of I for reasons other than the weather, and being from the south it just didn't occur to me that cold + Segway riding = really really cold.

Re: Segway boss Jimi Heselden dies in scooter cliff fall

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I took a Segway tour in Chicago this summer. Part of the tour takes you by the water. I asked out guide if a segwayer had ever fallen in - the answer was yes, sort of. They did lose a Segway in the lake, but the user jumped off before going in herself. The worse accident they had ever had was when a guy went over the front, smashing his face, after using it incorrectly and accidentally enabled an auto-stop mechanism,…

In 2008 I had just founded a textbook-selling website, and one of the first schools we went to was University of Illinois- Urbana/Champaigne. We had a genius marketing idea: rent a Segway and ride it around campus handing out fake dollar bills that had our information on it You can see the example here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4971801/Illinois%20Heads1.jpg ). Not only could we move around campus faster, but we would…

maybe you can try rent a Lamborghini for this next time. I mean it has heaters and stands out on campus as well.

Re: Segway boss Jimi Heselden dies in scooter cliff fall

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It might be worth pointing out that the person who died is not the inventor of the Segway, that would be Dean Kamen. I'm not saying that anyone claimed it was, but just pointing it out to avoid confusion.

For what it's worth, he did invent (or entrepreneured, it isn't clear) the hesco bastion, which according to the former marine sitting next to me was something the troops really liked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesco_bastion

I remember when the Hesco barriers started showing up in Iraq. They quickly replaced lots of the concrete pouring in many area for explosives barriers. Amazing things.

Plus, their booth at various tradeshows is basically an open free bar with unlimited beer.

Re: Segway boss Jimi Heselden dies in scooter cliff fall

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It might be worth pointing out that the person who died is not the inventor of the Segway, that would be Dean Kamen. I'm not saying that anyone claimed it was, but just pointing it out to avoid confusion.

Agreed. When I first saw the headline, I thought it was Dean.

Re: Segway boss Jimi Heselden dies in scooter cliff fall

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, he did invent (or entrepreneured, it isn't clear) the hesco bastion, which according to the former marine sitting next to me was something the troops really liked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesco_bastion

Apparently, they even have a version that can be rapidly deployed. Pretty impressive. See video. http://www.hesco.com/raid/

That video is seriously cool.
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