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I've not seen any websites that require a Facebook account to log in, but my immediate reaction on seeing one would be to assume the person who implemented it doesn't know what they're doing and can't be trusted with my data.
Why would you trust a website asking for an email and password more?
I have a site that requires Facebook to login. For this site, user fraud is a big concern. I would much rather have an easy way to tell if someone is a "real" person, and Facebook gives me that. If my market size goes from 1.5B to 500M because of this decision, that's fine. In our case, it's a calculated choice, like the dozens of calculated choices a startup makes every day.
I have two fake Facebook accounts that I use to sign in to services. I even have a good rep on Quora using a completely fake name. Forcing Facebook because you think it will give you real people and verified accounts is wrong.
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You might make the same argument for only supporting IE as the only browser you app works with. I suspect it's actually an issue from day one as there are folks who would sign up but don't because you require Facebook.
Not for my market. 90% of them have facebook accounts.
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I would much rather have an easy way to tell if someone is a "real" person, and Facebook gives me that. How does Facebook give you that, exactly?
Several ways, none of which is individually full-proof, but taken together they are a very good indicator: - Does the user have a profile photo, or is it the default user icon? - How many friends does the user have? (Generally 0, 1, or 2 is highly suspicious) - Does the user have a real name? [Edit: we have a blacklist of fake names.]
I'm very curious how do you believe you can check that.
I'm sorry, but its just not worth expending the extra effort to get you signed up to my service. I can get millions of people before it even starts becoming an issue.
You are aware that there are more people not on facebook than people on facebook, right?
Usually your addressable market will be something like: "English speakers over the age 22 with household income of at least $30,000 per year."
And then suddenly more people are on Facebook than not.
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I would much rather have an easy way to tell if someone is a "real" person, and Facebook gives me that. How does Facebook give you that, exactly?
Most people don't go to the trouble of registering a fake Facebook account to sign up for a random web service. If you want to be even more strict, you can look for people with at least 3 friends -- most real people have more than 10 friends, and very few people with a fake account will register 4.
Surely it's easier to write your own authentication system than plug in to Facebooks?
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You might make the same argument for only supporting IE as the only browser you app works with. I suspect it's actually an issue from day one as there are folks who would sign up but don't because you require Facebook.
Not for my market. 90% of them have facebook accounts.
In answer to my own unasked question, yes, there may be logins available on bugmenot (http://www.bugmenot.com/view/facebook.bug) although when you search for 'facebook' it says it says that it has been 'barred'.
What about Twitter?
Just as bad, in my mind. But I could be alone on that.
*Unless you make tweets private. But even then, your followers and followees are still public.