FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

Post by _up » Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 5:33 AM UTC

boomboomsubban wrote: post #71

mirimir wrote: post #47

Damn, you'd think that someone at that level would pay for better OPSEC support. But then, I guess that I'm not surprised. Blackberry does have a reputation, not at all deserved at this point. I'm pretty sure that the President's phone is just as poorly secured. Probably less, from what I've read.

This issue is huge in politics. The entire Clinton personal e-mail scandal was essentially her unwilling to give up her BlackBerry, something Obama was unwilling to give up too. These people learned how to use some technology decades ago, and will continue using it no matter what other issues it causes.

Post by djmips » Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 5:41 AM UTC

odorousrex wrote: post #12

justboxing wrote: post #6

> The letter to Judge Kimba Wood stated that "the Government was advised that the FBI’s original electronic extraction of data from telephones did not capture content related to encrypted messaging applications, such as WhatsApp and Signal... The FBI has now obtained this material." I don't get this. How could you possibly decrypt encrypted messages without WhatsApp or Signal's assistance? Isn't the whole point of en…

>Isn't the whole point of encryption that no-one can decrypt it unless they have the necessary keys? But if the person who knows the relevant keys willingly hands over appropriate passwords/etc. for a more lenient sentence then encryption is moot.

Post by omarforgotpwd » Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 6:04 AM UTC

boomboomsubban wrote: post #83

zacharycohn wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check your timelines. Obama was elected in 2008, and BlackBerry was the dominant player in the market at that point. Also, he DID swap out his phone for a secured one, and his staff instituted a number of security protocols to keep it secure.

A dominant player, yet Obama needed a special highly modified version to securely access the White House network. A huge amount of work to keep using what he was comfortable with.

Post by krn » Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 6:16 AM UTC

lstyls wrote: post #92

jlgaddis wrote: post #39

If there's one (family of) devices(s) that the FBI certainly knows how to 100% completely pwn the shit out of... it's the Blackberry.

Why?

Post by mirimir » Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 6:19 AM UTC

onetimemanytime wrote: post #94

kasey_junk wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose we are now very much into personal bias. Mine suggests that until very recently working as a personal lawyer for a reality star & planning for the “normal” security concerns therein wouldn’t be something high end firms would do (nor things lawyers would ask for) as a matter of course. Remember by the time the feds come knocking it’s too late.

Leave bias aside for a second: Trump (before election) is a high profile person, he does have a huge business with hundreds /thousands of employees and is worth at least billions. To want security is not just normal but a super smart move. If they pay, why wouldn't the top OPSEC companies tell them how to secure their devices? (Reading might do 99% of work though)