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FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

#41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is why I read Hacker News. The media will try cover up and protect Trump no matter what. Good thing commenters here can scoop the media and expose his lies.

How are you sure that the parent comments isn't lying to you, either? I'm not saying that it is, but you should take more care to verify your sources rather than relying on random commenters on a technology forum…

I was being sarcastic.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is why I read Hacker News. The media will try cover up and protect Trump no matter what. Good thing commenters here can scoop the media and expose his lies.

Maybe if your definition of media is Fox News and Fox News alone. Washington Post, NY Times, CNN, MSNBC, and hell even Yahoo News have been the ones revealing most of these details for the public to see through what must be some of the best investigative journalism in history. Although I hate the panel circus, false equivocating, and general pussy footing in the media, they have been doing an admirable job. In the la…

I thought it was spelled Faux News.

My definition of the media is pretty expansive. If Trump is in so much trouble, I would think the Washington Post or New York Times would lead with it. Maybe they buried the trouble in the Style section.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

#43

Manfort [not Cohen, as I originally wrote, but Manafort] had his message stored on iCloud. That turned out to be part of how the FBI was able to recover them so easily. https://gizmodo.com/paul-manafort-learns-that-encrypting-mes...

"...Cohen's messages were stored on iCloud..."

???

Your comment had me struggling to determine how one could store WhatsApp messages on iCloud. (From a Blackberry no less.)

But then I followed your link. I don't think that article was about Cohen. You may want to change your post.

On an equally important note, why is it that people out there assume that ANY form of electronic communication is impervious from government surveillance? The reality is that if a three letter agency is after you, it's probably unwise to be using WhatsApp and Signal in an incriminating fashion. (Or anything else for that matter.)

It's like locking your physical spaces. Yeah, you should go ahead and lock your house or office and turn on the alarm system while you're gone...

but you should also go ahead and assume that those three letter agencies planted surveillance devices in that house or office even in the face of your security measures.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you sure that the parent comments isn't lying to you, either? I'm not saying that it is, but you should take more care to verify your sources rather than relying on random commenters on a technology forum…

I was being sarcastic.

Poe's law strikes again!

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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post #43

Manfort [not Cohen, as I originally wrote, but Manafort] had his message stored on iCloud. That turned out to be part of how the FBI was able to recover them so easily. https://gizmodo.com/paul-manafort-learns-that-encrypting-mes...

"...Cohen's messages were stored on iCloud..." ??? Your comment had me struggling to determine how one could store WhatsApp messages on iCloud. (From a Blackberry no less.) But then I followed your link. I don't think that article was about Cohen. You may want to change your post. On an equally important note, why is it that people out there assume that ANY form of electronic communication is impervious from governme…

It may be referring to the fact that WhatsApp has a cloud backup feature built in to the app that keeps a copy of your messages in a cloud storage provider. The Android app at least explicitly warns you that this database is not end-to-end encrypted and that doing this backup defeats the point of the encryption.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Encryption in transit doesn't imply encryption at rest. For instance, WhatsApp on Android will happily back up to Google Drive, if you allow it, and it does so in cleartext.

Nothing on Google Drive is stored "in clear text".

I'm pretty sure anything public on Google Drive is...

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Damn, you'd think that someone at that level would pay for better OPSEC support. But then, I guess that I'm not surprised. Blackberry does have a reputation, not at all deserved at this point. I'm pretty sure that the President's phone is just as poorly secured. Probably less, from what I've read.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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The article doesn't specify whether or not the encryption was "broken", or whether Cohen is simply cooperating. My hunch tells me it's the latter.

obligatory: https://xkcd.com/538/

No, it's really not.

We've all seen it. Hundreds of times.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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post #47

Damn, you'd think that someone at that level would pay for better OPSEC support. But then, I guess that I'm not surprised. Blackberry does have a reputation, not at all deserved at this point. I'm pretty sure that the President's phone is just as poorly secured. Probably less, from what I've read.

... especially after the BB leadership bragged about helping law enforcement backdoor into things...
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