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Other people's children will be paying for your social security payments when you retire. You're welcome!
So pensions are a pyramid scheme? I don't think the world can bear the exponential population growth required.
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What do you want people to do when they are job searching while pregnant? Are you just wishing you'd been told on her first day on the job?
Let me answer this with a counter-question. If you're pregnant and somehow hiding it really well, do you think it makes sense for you to job-hunting six weeks before you're due to give birth?
This is an example where pregnancy directly makes someone less able to do their job. That seems like a valid reason to want to pay them less, or to no longer hire them. Unlike the more general call of equal pay for equal work (regarding the wage gap) here the demand is essentially equal pay for worse work. I assume the argument is that affirmative action is needed to get more women at the top. However, not taking affirmative action is rather different from active discrimination.
I'd like to qualify that I tend to support affirmative action, but I do not think that forced affirmative action works. If we force companies into such action by law, they have every reason to follow the letter to the least amount possible, and totally ignore the spirit of the law.
Pregnant employees are undoubtably less of an investment for the company when you consider paid leave. In fact the company might actually lose money on you. This is a lot different than racial, sex, or age discrimination as a result of social bias or stereotypes. So it makes sense there is discrimination from companies and managers - especially competitive companies where the managers are paid based on their team per…
Then you'd just be discriminating against the youngish, the married and a bunch of other factors. I just think these kind of answers are the first logical steps in trying to address the problem. With more thought and experience people will arrive at the realisation that there may actually not be a good mechanism to socially engineer the desired outcome. Devolving decision making to the business owners and managers, a…
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I'm aware of that. This is a case where one right is in conflict with another. There's no good answer. One group of people is going to lose and another is going to win. The disadvantage women have is that they can't hide a pregnancy forever. Men can go to extreme lengths to hide their relationships. Although rare, it is not unheard of for a man to have two families at the same time, each one hidden from the other, an…
Society doesn't need to and doesn't have any duty make this kind of arrangement easier to maintain. Also multiple marriages are illegal in Western countries.
The fact is, an employer has no right to know what, if any, relationships the employee has, let alone the pregnancy status of them.
The fact that employers discriminate against pregnant employees is the problem we should be addressing directly.
This area is really tough. I feel terrible for women who experience this bias, but the solution is not nearly as obvious as with race/gender/age/religious/etc discrimination. In those cases the answer is: stop being biased. Let's say you're a small company and you can really only afford to have Even if they both plan to have 2 kids in the next 4 years, it's a biological reality that it will take the woman away from w…
[1] http://www.edd.ca.gov/Payroll_Taxes/Rates_-_Historical.htm
Personally experienced it. Wife worked at Google, had always positive performance reviews. Come pregnancy time she informed her manager, 3 days later they put her on a performance improvement plan. It didn't take long for them to realize they were making a big mistake, risking an expensive lawsuit so they let it go and let her have her paid 12 month leave. After returning she got the choice to do the PIP or take seve…
I'm glad you decided to do this. The practice is not going to change if people don't call it out when it happens.
This area is really tough. I feel terrible for women who experience this bias, but the solution is not nearly as obvious as with race/gender/age/religious/etc discrimination. In those cases the answer is: stop being biased. Let's say you're a small company and you can really only afford to have Even if they both plan to have 2 kids in the next 4 years, it's a biological reality that it will take the woman away from w…
One of the solutions to this is matching paternity leave. If I gave you the choice of two employees, one of whom would take 12 weeks of paid leave and one who would take 2 weeks of paid leave, which would you choose? If you offered both sexes 12 weeks of paid leave, you wouldn't have to make this decision.
You'd have to make it mandatory leave. The social pressure is still tilted towards women as care givers and men as providers so more men will end up not using the leave. If it becomes mandatory then it's just a baked in rising to every employee, _and_ will probably do better for society to have both parents get time with their children. I believe some European states solve this by having the state cover ~60% of your…
That is, I'd propose we let some government pay the maternity leave, and finance it from income tax.
Personally experienced it. Wife worked at Google, had always positive performance reviews. Come pregnancy time she informed her manager, 3 days later they put her on a performance improvement plan. It didn't take long for them to realize they were making a big mistake, risking an expensive lawsuit so they let it go and let her have her paid 12 month leave. After returning she got the choice to do the PIP or take seve…
How many days/months/years between a) joining the company and b) informing of the pregnancy? I know the law doesn't care, but I care. There's a difference between informing your manager one month after you're hired that you're pregnant (been there, felt totally fooled - as the manager, that is) and will need to take time off quite soon, and doing it like a year or so later. The "always positive performance reviews" b…
It can't be more than 9 months. A year, tops.
In all seriousness, if you've gotten multiple performance reviews, that implies they've been there for a while.