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Re: Ask HN: Do you regret leaving corporate for entrepreneurship?

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I'm a dev. I did this a few years ago, started my own company. I failed for two reasons: 1. I wasn't experienced enough as a developer IN THIS TECHNOLOGY to hit the ground running. When you are self-employed, time = money. You don't have time to learn the technology, figure out your business, and write the code. You have to hit the ground running and burning time on ramping up is extremely expensive. 2. I lacked the…

Developing this cadence takes deliberate effort. Same for remote working when you are a few hours ahead of the main team. Remember to pack it up when you are done for the day !

Re: Ask HN: Do you regret leaving corporate for entrepreneurship?

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post #8

What's wrong with working the corporate world, and moonlighting your SaaS business? If it ends up taking off, then quit. I don't understand why it has to be either or. I run multiple side gigs, while keeping the safe corporate job, for now.

How does your full time job's contract deal with side businesses? I'm always wary of starting one because my company requires a lot of paperwork and approval and running it by legal, HR, Joe Shmoe, etc. to do something on the side

Re: Ask HN: Do you regret leaving corporate for entrepreneurship?

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No regrets but there are a couple of things that made the decision easy for me.

1. I started by switching to contracting, I had a good reputation in my niche and plenty of contacts. Mostly it was lots of fairly short contracts which allowed me to develop my own product in the inevitable quite periods between jobs. I did this for two years before I quite contracting.

2. I wasn't a very good employee, it wasn't until some time after I left the corporate world that I really understood that it didn't suit me.

3. I'm a saver, it would have been much harder to do if I lived from pay check to pay check.

Re: Ask HN: Do you regret leaving corporate for entrepreneurship?

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If you want to hear a "yes, go for it" then yes, go for it. If you are still open to suggestions, lets play out that scenario where you quit your job and start a business. Then you would: 1) Make an overall vision for your business. 2) Translate it to several phases. 3) Translate each phase into tasks. 4) Start working on tasks. If a task is too big, break it down to subtasks. 5) Incrementally start finishing tasks.…

(skipping over legal and tech arguments for a moment) Sadly, if your business is in software, then your corporate employer will own your IP, and the answer becomes "No".

Not a chance. If someone wants to hire me, they do not own my work outside of business hours. It's the new serfdom.

Re: Ask HN: Do you regret leaving corporate for entrepreneurship?

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If you want to hear a "yes, go for it" then yes, go for it. If you are still open to suggestions, lets play out that scenario where you quit your job and start a business. Then you would: 1) Make an overall vision for your business. 2) Translate it to several phases. 3) Translate each phase into tasks. 4) Start working on tasks. If a task is too big, break it down to subtasks. 5) Incrementally start finishing tasks.…

(skipping over legal and tech arguments for a moment) Sadly, if your business is in software, then your corporate employer will own your IP, and the answer becomes "No".

Not if you're doing it on your own hardware, on your own time, outside of work hours

Re: Ask HN: Do you regret leaving corporate for entrepreneurship?

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post #14

You won't regret it if you go to entrepreneurship and ship. The problem is not about entrepreneurship but in not planning for failure and having backup plans. John Carmack: "There is wisdom that only comes from complete product cycles -- no amount of job hopping can provide it." [1] From personal experience, I can say go for it not because you hate corporate, but because you want an end to end experience, then come b…

Nothing worse than shipping and having absolutely no sales.

I've never had no sales but have had some products that were low volume. They have always been a useful learning experience, either from a technology or business perspective.

Re: Ask HN: Do you regret leaving corporate for entrepreneurship?

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post #13
post #7

Contemplating this decision myself. Would love to hear others thoughts!

Money turns into time tokens. Therefore reducing your cost of living = more time. It's a different way of thinking and I like it. The comfort & security that comes from a steady paycheck can go in an instant. Don't let that false security keep you stuck in the rat race. Nobody wants to pay for you if they don't have to. I went to someone else's startup to escape corporate then success turned it quite corporate as wel…

and where did he get the money to pay the alimony?

Re: Ask HN: Do you regret leaving corporate for entrepreneurship?

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I don't regret. I left my day job in late 2016 and started to do this startup thing. I'm still very happy.

I've seen people who left day job to start companies and became very unhappy very quickly (within 6 months). The key thing is to have the right motivation and to manage expectation.

If the primary reason to start your own company is to look good in front of your other fancy friends, then you'd better not do that in the first place. Doing startup is roller coaster. You won't look good in front of others all the time. Actually, for a long period of time (many months ~ many years), you may look pretty bad, in terms of product metrics, income, company reputation...

Some of my friends asked me whether they should start a company, I typically suggest them to answer these questions first:

* Have you made over $10k on your own? Not from your day job salary. Not from public stock market. Making money needs practice. You start a company to make money. You'd better have some experience of making money first.

* What's your longest project? Have you worked on anything for multiple years? Grit & patience need practice. Building a successful company takes multiple years, even decades. Be prepared.

* When was the last time you were insulted by others? If you grew up in a very comfortable environment (rich family, great schools -- because your parents went to those great schools too, great companies, ...), probably you already get used to compliment for your entire life. Now you are going to face very very diverse set of people who don't know your family background or don't recognize your family name, if you start a company. If you are the kind of people that are easy to be upset, you'd better stay in the friendly corporate.

* What happened when you broke up with your ex or your friends? People relationship is complex. You'll experience a lot of bad people relationship if you start your own company -- breaking up with cofounders, firing employees, fighting evil investors, fighting con man, fighting bad reporters, dealing with malicious users, dealing with competitors (sometimes in person)... All kinds of drama. You'd better practice this kind of things before starting your own company.

Re: Ask HN: Do you regret leaving corporate for entrepreneurship?

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Money turns into time tokens. Therefore reducing your cost of living = more time. It's a different way of thinking and I like it. The comfort & security that comes from a steady paycheck can go in an instant. Don't let that false security keep you stuck in the rat race. Nobody wants to pay for you if they don't have to. I went to someone else's startup to escape corporate then success turned it quite corporate as wel…

and where did he get the money to pay the alimony?

He was the head of the art & architecture department at a women's college. Hence the alimony.

Re: Ask HN: Do you regret leaving corporate for entrepreneurship?

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post #22

I left my "real job" for entrepreneurship about 8 years ago (at age 23) and haven't looked back. I've run several small companies since then, with a game server host[1] being the most recent. I'm pretty happy with how it's gone and I have no regrets over leaving. I was happy and well-treated in the real job, but nothing beats the freedom to work on what I want, when I want, using whichever technologies I want. The bi…

This is great advice. Did you work on your first business part-time while working your last "real job"? I feel like I'm in a similar boat and I'm not sure what to do next. I'm 24 and I work for a great company with really smart people whom over the past two years I've learned from quite a bit, I've always wanted to start a business though, actually in college I did just that to earn money. I created an app developmen…

I started my first business while I was in college, and kept it going on the side while working the real job. After a year at the real job, I decided to leave and focus on the business.

What happened to your company from college-- did you shut it down? Sell it? Did it die on its own?

I don't think anyone can tell you whether it's the right time for you. Neither decision is permanent, though: If you do leave and it doesn't go well, it shouldn't be hard to go back to your old job or find a new one. "I took a year off, started a business, learned a lot, failed, and now I want a job" should go over well with most employers. If you don't leave, you can spend the next year learning more from your employer while tinkering with your idea on the side -- and then leave next year.

As you age, you'll tend to accumulate obligations. Marriage, kids, mortgage, elderly parents/relatives that need care, medical problems of your own -- things like this will make it harder and more risky to quit your job later in life. So if you're going to do it, your 20s are a great time.

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