For $1B, Elon Musk’s Tunnel to O’Hare Would Be a Miracle
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Re: For $1B, Elon Musk’s Tunnel to O’Hare Would Be a Miracle
#2It is a bet. They need to prove that they are there to play the game like the rest of the competitors. If they fail for many different reasons a small budget increase is not a big deal. They are ready to pay the fines.
Re: For $1B, Elon Musk’s Tunnel to O’Hare Would Be a Miracle
#3This is terrible.
$25 for 12 minutes from one place in the loop to O'Hare
CTA is $2.50 for 37 minutes (the $5 is if you start from O'Hare)
This is only benefitting people for whom 25 minutes is worth $20/$22.50.
$1bn or whatever absurd cost it comes out to be is much better spent on improving transit for the actual public.
Or you know, to stop shutting down schools.
EDIT: typo
Re: For $1B, Elon Musk’s Tunnel to O’Hare Would Be a Miracle
#4This is terrible. $25 for 12 minutes from one place in the loop to O'Hare CTA is $2.50 for 37 minutes (the $5 is if you start from O'Hare) This is only benefitting people for whom 25 minutes is worth $20/$22.50. $1bn or whatever absurd cost it comes out to be is much better spent on improving transit for the actual public. Or you know, to stop shutting down schools. EDIT: typo
> This is only benefitting people for whom 25 minutes is worth $20/$22.50
Roads suffer from induced demand [1]. You can't build your way out of traffic. The only solutions are tolls or quotas.
In any case, if you can't find anyone willing to pay to use your infrastructure (at a price that recoups the investment), that's a sign you overbuilt.
> transit for the actual public
Cars going through this tunnel are cars off other roads.
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#5I followed the Chicago Tribune link because I wanted to read the article that provided this quote, “can build tunnels at least 14 times faster than previous efforts, which a company official acknowledged the company must still prove,”
… and I got this!
http://www.tronc.com/gdpr/chicagotribune.com/
"Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism."
edit: I'm not complaining and I'm not trying to derail (hah, see what I did there) the topic. I was expressing my surprise, first time this has happened to me.
Re: For $1B, Elon Musk’s Tunnel to O’Hare Would Be a Miracle
#6This is terrible. $25 for 12 minutes from one place in the loop to O'Hare CTA is $2.50 for 37 minutes (the $5 is if you start from O'Hare) This is only benefitting people for whom 25 minutes is worth $20/$22.50. $1bn or whatever absurd cost it comes out to be is much better spent on improving transit for the actual public. Or you know, to stop shutting down schools. EDIT: typo
The project will be financed by the Boring company, not by the city. The Heathrow express in London work on a similar concept, it takes 15 min to go to Heathrow compared to 1h with the tube, and they charge ~10 times the price of a regular tube ticket.
Re: For $1B, Elon Musk’s Tunnel to O’Hare Would Be a Miracle
#7The design is bullshit. People would have their legs crushed as the car descends, and then they would fall into the hole and die.
Re: For $1B, Elon Musk’s Tunnel to O’Hare Would Be a Miracle
#8This is terrible. $25 for 12 minutes from one place in the loop to O'Hare CTA is $2.50 for 37 minutes (the $5 is if you start from O'Hare) This is only benefitting people for whom 25 minutes is worth $20/$22.50. $1bn or whatever absurd cost it comes out to be is much better spent on improving transit for the actual public. Or you know, to stop shutting down schools. EDIT: typo
> This is only benefitting people for whom 25 minutes is worth $20/$22.50.
This is not true for everyone though. Business travelers take cabs between the loop and o'hare. So, $25 is actually faster and cheaper -- so it's a great use of their money! Even if it was more expensive than a cab, most business travelers would happily spend a little more of someone else's (company) money to get there faster.
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#9I wonder about vulnerability to terrorism here? How easily could a sufficient bomb disable the entire system for weeks or months?
I started thinking this way while standing in line to go through security at JFK. There were about a thousand people milling about, and we hadn't gone through any sort of substantial security yet. And I was thinking that a bomb there could kill more people than taking out an airplane. Yay security theater.
Re: For $1B, Elon Musk’s Tunnel to O’Hare Would Be a Miracle
#10I followed the Chicago Tribune link because I wanted to read the article that provided this quote, “can build tunnels at least 14 times faster than previous efforts, which a company official acknowledged the company must still prove,” … and I got this! http://www.tronc.com/gdpr/chicagotribune.com/ "Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committe…
They probably need to track people to make the advertising revenue they're counting on and they probably can't do that and serve Europe under GDPR regulations.