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Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

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Re: Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

#11
First, sorry you're in this spot. I hope you have friends/church group/family support to help you in this time.

If it were me, I'd probably have both myself and my wife take whatever 'second' jobs we could (Wal-Mart, fast food, etc.) for nights/weekend income. I'd reserve my 9-5 hours for a full-press job search.

Good luck to you. Your skills are in demand, so hopefully this won't last long.

Re: Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

#12
How resonable is the person/company you rent from to secure an agreement to stay on despite the late rent? You have had a job before and based on your background clearly have the potential to be earning again soon. It’s not like the situation is hopeless for them, if they can wait it out you will be able to pay. Is moving in with family or friends temporarily possible?

Re: Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

#13
Doh I am so sorry to hear that :(. Do not blame yourself for not finding a job, guilt/blame is just going to hurt you here. Be confident when you do those interviews and submit those applications, just because you have gotten unlucky so far in finding a new gig does not in anyway reflect who you are.

Do you have anyone you can borrow money from to cover you for a while? Family or friends? That would be the first option I would suggest.

Do you have family or friends who have a spare area you can crash to sleep at least?

Can your wife drive for uber/lyft while she is looking for a job, that can bring home some money and if you own a car that might work. That could help you get back on step 1 possibly. You might also look in Boulder, as there are a ton of jobs here she could get instantly and then quit once she finds something closer to Denver to avoid the commute.

There are some good resources here: https://www.denvergov.org/content/denvergov/en/denver-human-... *It might not hurt to call and see what options they have. There might be some city programs in this situation to get you in something for 30 to 90 days until you are back on your feet.

Another option is to camp and use the shower system someone mentioned. A tent is cheap and it is a warmer time of year to get away with that. I hope it doesn't come to that.

I salute your ethics in quitting the last job, but I would urge you next time to build a safety net and put ethics second to "survival". I can understand if they were killing or hurting people, but customer data is just a modern day problem we don't know what to do with as the definition of privacy evolves.

Re: Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

#14

Please apply at www.WindwardStudios.com. We're looking for a brilliant senior full stack developer.

> We're looking for a brilliant senior full stack developer.

How about just a "solid, hard-working senior developer"? When you say "brilliant", most good, competent developers think of a truly 1 in 1000 brilliant developer we know, and think of how short we fall from that.

In truth, unless you're doing some kind of advanced machine learning or cutting edge software work, you likely don't need a brilliant developer. And indeed, looking at your site, you probably aren't doing anything of the sort.

Instead, a company like yours requires a dependable, competent, team-player.

Why not ask for that?

Edit: Jesus H Christ, is this really that controversial to merit 4 downvotes in the first 5 minutes? OK, have at it all you brilliant devs. I remember being in my early 20s, too...

Also, have you geniuses considered that the job post above is addressing a man who's a bit down on his luck at the moment? Perhaps putting up a post asking for a "brilliant" developer isn't the best approach? Unless, of course, the OP isn't the actual target of the comment, but instead he's advertising to HN at large (which is my guess).

Re: Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

#15

Why would 3 days late on your rent involve a court date and eviction? If I recall, the last few leases I signed had clauses like a $25 late fee for up to a week overdue. And as a landlord, at least here in NH, if somebody doesn't pay immediately, and you want to get rid of them, you have to deliver a written demand for rent, which allows X number of days for response, before you can commence eviction proceedings.

It'd be really shocking to me if this happened in the US without some prior history/grounds for eviction. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure most states have pretty pro-tenant laws when it comes to these sorts of things.

OP- if this is nothing but 3 days late on rent, check your lease and your local laws. I can't imagine many places in the western world allow eviction from an actual residence over something like this.

Re: Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

#16
Also, just to make sure, you know about the Built In Colorado job board right?

https://www.builtincolorado.com/jobs?f[0]=job-category_devel...

I worry their process will be slow but I want to throw that out there. I also would just mention that you quit your last job because your manager was bad, I would not mention you quit because of data privacy concerns as that can raise red flags I would imagine.

Re: Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

#17

This sucks! I'm so sorry to hear man. I've spent a lot of time with people who are homeless, which has caused me to think about this very question though I haven't had to put any of this into practice so grain of salt. - Get a membership to a cheap gym so you can use their shower (and potentially wifi) if the shelter doesn't work out. In many areas it's possible to get a membership for $10-20/month. Clean your clothe…

I'm not convinced that OP needs a laptop but a $100-150 old Thinkpad or low end Chromebook will get you pretty far these days.

A chromebook is not good. A cheap t410 or t400 would be best.

Re: Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

#18
post #5

Have you applied for unemployment? State benefits may not fully pay the rent but should help. You'll likely need to supply proof that you're looking for work but that sounds like your plan anyway.

With some exceptions (hostile work environment, etc.), unemployment typically won't pay out if you quit a job.

Re: Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

#19
0. Save your money for laundry and storage.

1. Food pantries will provide food. “I have a food emergency.”

2. Call the local homeless shelters, mental health clinics - anywhere that deals with indigent populations.

3. Recognize your bravery for putting ethics over money.

4. Work your way into a low-income housing situation. Many ethical thinkers live this way.

5. Don’t get paranoid or angry. You have dignity.

6. Join a church which is full of intelligent and relaxed people. I recommend Catholicism.

7. If you have to ask for something, ask for it with a smile. People want to help each other.

8. Family sticks together.

Sincerely, A programmer who lived homelessly for years

Re: Ask HN: How to survive as a homeless engineer?

#20
post #15

Why would 3 days late on your rent involve a court date and eviction? If I recall, the last few leases I signed had clauses like a $25 late fee for up to a week overdue. And as a landlord, at least here in NH, if somebody doesn't pay immediately, and you want to get rid of them, you have to deliver a written demand for rent, which allows X number of days for response, before you can commence eviction proceedings.

It'd be really shocking to me if this happened in the US without some prior history/grounds for eviction. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure most states have pretty pro-tenant laws when it comes to these sorts of things. OP- if this is nothing but 3 days late on rent, check your lease and your local laws. I can't imagine many places in the western world allow eviction from an actual residence over something like…

Unfortunately, Colorado's eviction laws are not as pro-tenant as California's or other Western countries'. Based on a cursory search, it doesn't take more than 30 days between the missed payment and a judge ordering a sheriff to evict you in person.
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