Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight depression?

news.ycombinator.com

111–120 of 152 posts

Re: Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight depression?

#111
post #70
post #11

Seek professional help. Threads like these are typically filled with unverified claims, anecdotes, well-meaning tips and what others think helped them or someone they know in what they believe are similar circumstances. Some people aren't diagnosed, but make their own assumptions. Others don't differentiate between a mood (sadness) and pathology (clinical depression). TLDR: There are too many variables, unknowns and…

You did not understand the question. OP requested a "hack", which is, by definition, an unverified claim, anecdote, well-meaning tip etc. And anyway, your absolute faith in professionals is unwarranted. Psychiatry and psychology remain largely unsupported by good science. There is no verified and widely-accepted predictive model of overall brain function. Many therapists operate entirely on personal bias and supersti…

My point is that there may not be an obvious hack for complicated issues like depression.

I don’t have absolute faith in professionals; Don’t know what gave you that idea. I’m saying they’re better than the alternatives, and that expertise is worth something.

I agree with some of your criticisms of the status quo, but it seems to me like you’re conflating your own views of society with an objective view that serves as a legitimate basis for a depressive reaction/sadness.

As for your claims regarding endogenous depression: I don’t know what you base them on. I’ve seen nothing to support this position, at least.

There might be psychologically unhealthy sides to modern society, but what you and others present as alternatives is, in my opinion, glorified guesswork - as opposed to a somewhat systematic search for knowledge (flawed as it is).

Re: Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight depression?

#112
I don't know if this helps fight depression per se, but all of the below has helped me:

- Getting at least 6-7 hours of sleep every night consistently

- Reading a book for at least 10 minutes a day

- Going for a 20-30 minute walk outside alone (day, night, doesn't matter, as long as you feel safe)

- Weightlifting a couple of times a week

- Eating right

- Trying to not box myself into restrictive thinking about all of the above (like, if I want to eat a donut, I can eat a donut, I just should be conscious of portion control)

- Going to therapy every week. This can be an expensive option, but hopefully you can find someone in network for your health insurance or find people who do group therapy. Regardless, I find it very healthy to be able to talk about my week with someone who isn't a close friend. They typically give me clarity on what it is that I'm sometimes feeling.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight depression?

#113
Change things up.

In my experience, being depressed takes less effort than not being depressed.

I live in a small city and I would spend most of my days working then going home to play games and watch Netflix while slowly becoming a hoarder living in garbage.

Then I started walking everywhere, to coffee shops, to music venues, etc. Every place that I walked to was an excuse to get out of the house and be active. Whenever I had those walks, I had time for a lot of self reflection and exposure to meaningful experiences and people that I would have never had if I stayed inside bingeing on Netflix. I still get bummed out at times, but I don't daydream about suicide anymore.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight depression?

#114

- Go to bed early and develop a regular sleep pattern, and don't fool yourself with the myth about being a "night person", you are not a cat, you have just offset your sleep/wake cycle from lacking proper routine. - Exercise regularly. Aerobic exercise(whatever that means for you) that you can maintain without develop injury or over-training will be your baseline. Endorphin is what you are after, since it provides a…

As a person with DSPS, I don't agree with your first statement. Some people are night persons and can't help it.

If you have depression you need a regular sleep cycle or the depression will be worst

Re: Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight depression?

#116
Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight .

Start from trusted resource like: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/stress-anxiety-depression/low-...

It is possible that you will need to work with therapist who has spent decades debugging and solving problems like yours. If you can't afford therapy try to talk to real people with years of life experience outside of hacker forum.

At the end of the day you will need to understand what is the cause of your problem. Start thinking about it right away.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight depression?

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a person with DSPS, I don't agree with your first statement. Some people are night persons and can't help it.

If you have depression you need a regular sleep cycle or the depression will be worst

People with DSPD can't have "regular" sleep cycles, it's thought to be a genetic disorder where their cycle is offset a few hours from a regular sleep cycle.

Couple that with society's 9-5 work schedule, you're in for a rough time unless you can find an employer who will accommodate.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight depression?

#118

- Go to bed early and develop a regular sleep pattern, and don't fool yourself with the myth about being a "night person", you are not a cat, you have just offset your sleep/wake cycle from lacking proper routine. - Exercise regularly. Aerobic exercise(whatever that means for you) that you can maintain without develop injury or over-training will be your baseline. Endorphin is what you are after, since it provides a…

As a person with DSPS, I don't agree with your first statement. Some people are night persons and can't help it.

0.17% of the population have DSPS.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight depression?

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is more complex than that. For one thing, "which doctor?" Primary care physicians prescribe SSRIs all the time. You probably want to see a primary care physician anyway and get a thorough checkup and blood work to rule out physical causes. Your family doc or internist should also be able to refer you to a psychiatrist (who will usually offer more complex drug therapy) or to a talk therapist or both.

Do you think GPs should be prescribing SSRIs after a 15-minute exam?

That is better than nothing; really you should have a relationship with your PCP, I think I did have a 15 minute exam when I got an SSRI prescription, but I had seen that doc for three years and had talked about SSRIs for a while. I chose to take them because I know my life was about to get turned upside down and wanted to be proactive about dealing with it.

The main SSRI counterindication is that people with psychosis, bipolar, schizophrenia, and schizoaffective disorder are likely to get worse (manic) with SSRI treatment. A GP can screen for this and be right most of the time.

Unfortunately this is a disease like Diabetes that gets progressively worse, treatment with antipsychotic drugs might slow this. Psychotics tend to hate antipsychotic drugs and putting that together with it being almost impossible to force people take them many people don't get treated. They shouldn't get a script from a GP, they should see a psychiatrist.

The key to SSRI success is not the length of the first appointment, but the followup. You should have at least one and maybe several followup appointments to adjust dosage, medication, also consider a psych referral.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best hacks to fight depression?

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a person with DSPS, I don't agree with your first statement. Some people are night persons and can't help it.

0.17% of the population have DSPS.

So, roughly one person out of 600? That's a lot. Especially online, you probably interact with such people a lot more often that you think.
Post reply on HN