One Woman Who Knew Her Rights Forced Border Patrol Off a Greyhound Bus
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Re: One Woman Who Knew Her Rights Forced Border Patrol Off a Greyhound Bus
#2"riding a Greyhound bus from Bakersfield, California to Las Vegas, Nevada. As the bus approached an agricultural checkpoint at the Nevada state line,"
This sounds like a hoax. There are no "agricultural checkpoints" for vehicles leaving California.
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#3"riding a Greyhound bus from Bakersfield, California to Las Vegas, Nevada. As the bus approached an agricultural checkpoint at the Nevada state line," This sounds like a hoax. There are no "agricultural checkpoints" for vehicles leaving California.
You failed to read the entire sentence:
> As the bus approached an agricultural checkpoint at the Nevada state line, Ms. Smalls said the driver made an unusual announcement: “We are being boarded by Border Patrol. Please be prepared to show your documentation upon request.”
It was a CBP action at the physical location of an agricultural checkpoint, not an agricultural check on the way out of the state.
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#4"riding a Greyhound bus from Bakersfield, California to Las Vegas, Nevada. As the bus approached an agricultural checkpoint at the Nevada state line," This sounds like a hoax. There are no "agricultural checkpoints" for vehicles leaving California.
You failed to read the entire sentence: > As the bus approached an agricultural checkpoint at the Nevada state line, Ms. Smalls said the driver made an unusual announcement: “We are being boarded by Border Patrol. Please be prepared to show your documentation upon request.” It was a CBP action at the physical location of an agricultural checkpoint, not an agricultural check on the way out of the state.
It's weird, though, as the agricultural checkpoint is built solely around the California-bound lanes. There is no place to stop on the Nevada-bound lanes:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/California+Agricultural+In...
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#5> teaches us that sometimes knowing one’s rights and speaking out with confidence delivers truth to abusive power
One thing I worry in this kind of situation is that you think you know your right, but you are wrong, either because the laws changed since the last time you've studied them, because there is some precedent, or simply because there are lots of fine details.
One lawyer made an interesting point: you need to clarify if the law enforcer "wants" as opposed to "demands/orders", and that you should always comply with orders.
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#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
You failed to read the entire sentence: > As the bus approached an agricultural checkpoint at the Nevada state line, Ms. Smalls said the driver made an unusual announcement: “We are being boarded by Border Patrol. Please be prepared to show your documentation upon request.” It was a CBP action at the physical location of an agricultural checkpoint, not an agricultural check on the way out of the state.
It's weird, though, as the agricultural checkpoint is built solely around the California-bound lanes. There is no place to stop on the Nevada-bound lanes: https://www.google.com/maps/place/California+Agricultural+In...
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
You failed to read the entire sentence: > As the bus approached an agricultural checkpoint at the Nevada state line, Ms. Smalls said the driver made an unusual announcement: “We are being boarded by Border Patrol. Please be prepared to show your documentation upon request.” It was a CBP action at the physical location of an agricultural checkpoint, not an agricultural check on the way out of the state.
It's weird, though, as the agricultural checkpoint is built solely around the California-bound lanes. There is no place to stop on the Nevada-bound lanes: https://www.google.com/maps/place/California+Agricultural+In...
Presumably, the CBP agents set up on both sides.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's weird, though, as the agricultural checkpoint is built solely around the California-bound lanes. There is no place to stop on the Nevada-bound lanes: https://www.google.com/maps/place/California+Agricultural+In...
Presumably, the CBP agents set up on both sides.
Quite illegal, last I checked.
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#9I wonder if this "Great Lakes" rule has been held up in court. Chicago is definitely more than 100 miles from a border...
Re: One Woman Who Knew Her Rights Forced Border Patrol Off a Greyhound Bus
#10> teaches us that sometimes knowing one’s rights and speaking out with confidence delivers truth to abusive power One thing I worry in this kind of situation is that you think you know your right, but you are wrong, either because the laws changed since the last time you've studied them, because there is some precedent, or simply because there are lots of fine details. One lawyer made an interesting point: you need t…
>and that you should always comply with orders.
IANAL, but that seems to set a dangerous precedent to our rights as Americans, especially if they're just asking for ID and you absolutely haven't committed any crimes.