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Spanish football league defends phone 'spying'

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Re: Spanish football league defends phone 'spying'

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If you generate a fingerprint of the audio on the phone, you would not leak too much information about the environment. Shazam, for example, computes the spectrum, picks the strongest peaks, and uses the relative positions of small groups of peaks in time and frequency as features to search for in known recordings. Those features are quite sparse and you can not reconstruct the audio from them. You could however iden…

Private home licenses are different from public locals licenses and signals are also slightly different. Actually what bars do is buy a home license and use it for public locals. What I would find infuriating is they get away with it. Data Protection laws are very strict for the little guy, we will see what they do with the 500 pound gorilla. I'm not optimist. These laws did nothing to curb "legal spam" until GDPR. I…

I'm not in favor of content owners being able to enforce conditions on usage.

Imagine if your shovel from Home Depot contained a little gps unit and connected to your phone via bluetooth to allow you to license it for usage at different sites with different rates and terms and packages you could sign up for. Buy the homeowner package for only 9.99 a year for one site. Buy the groundskeeper package for 24.99 a year for any site within a 3 mile radius of a given point. Licence unlimited locations for only 49.99 a year!

Want to lend your shovel to your friend no problem just login to your account and share a link and ensure your friend pays the 4.99 fee!

If it doesn't make sense for a shovel I'm not sure why it makes sense for anything else.

Market segmentation certainly means money but I don't see why we as consumers should buy into it or care if its violated.

Re: Spanish football league defends phone 'spying'

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Anything that can be received for free over the air without signing any kind of license agreement should not count as "public performance" in my book.

Aereo thought so too. Their business model was based around hosting colocated TV antennas, from which they streamed broadcast TV to users on a 1:1 basis, geofenced by broadcast market. The Supreme Court shot this argument down. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aereo The problem is that this is the business model of broadcast networks in a world of cable TV. The statutory retransmission fees funnel some cable TV revenu…

Maybe they should have sold a share rather than leasing it? If a user owns an antenna and views their own stream, that's a private performance.

Re: Spanish football league defends phone 'spying'

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Aereo thought so too. Their business model was based around hosting colocated TV antennas, from which they streamed broadcast TV to users on a 1:1 basis, geofenced by broadcast market. The Supreme Court shot this argument down. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aereo The problem is that this is the business model of broadcast networks in a world of cable TV. The statutory retransmission fees funnel some cable TV revenu…

Maybe they should have sold a share rather than leasing it? If a user owns an antenna and views their own stream, that's a private performance.

Yeah, that would be an interesting twist.

My guess is the RF tech is a lot easier to deploy when you can plan for some percentile of peak utilization, rather than 1:1 with the user base. Even then, they'd undoubtedly face legal challenges, so they must have made the judgment call that the odds were on their side. Which may have been a reasonable conclusion. A lot of the judgments were actually on their side until the circuit split and the final Supreme Court decision.

After all, one wouldn't imaging that leasing an old-school aerial antenna would be a legal issue.

It was a hot topic on HN several years back. I may be biased, as my wife did PR for Aereo through the firm she works for. But I definitely buy the logic that what they were doing was technical a private performance.

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