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Claims no production staff were affected. Don't know the employee breakdown but imagine production is a huge portion of it. Hard to believe entire other divisions weren't completely eliminated if production not touched.
A 9% adjustment isn’t bad against a business that is running as hot as Tesla...
Are they running hot? They're in serious financial trouble and have been unable to meet self-imposed production levels. Now they're laying off thousands of people.
Musk always overestimates what he will be able to achieve in a given period and that's a good thing. It keeps you busting ass to make your goal instead of getting complacent and lazy.
Investors and keyboard cowboys need to realize that Tesla is not Ford/GM/Toyota, that it is a company that is effectively still an infant and has never produced at any worthwhile scale and has to figure all that out.
Just reading the first few comments.... I really don't get the Tesla hate. Is it hacker-ish contrarianism? Have they done something? What's the deal HN, why are we cheering against the home team? Overall Musk has been pretty straightforward and explicit with what he's doing. Tesla (and spacex) set extremely ambitious goals, like none of their competitors do. They take big risks. They're not interested in reducing ris…
> Seriously, what has he done to deserve this negativity? Interesting isn't it? It's almost like someone turned on a switch and suddenly there is rampant anti-elon musk sentiment. What has elon musk done recently? Well, he went after the biased media. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1000560049389907969?lang... and the "journalists" have been waging a war against him. There is a ridiculous amount of news industry…
Musk is notoriously anti-union, continually over-promises then under-delivers, has continually treated his wives as trophies, and has designed a worse subway just because he doesn't want his knees to touch some peasant's knees. He's just another shitty billionaire
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Count me in. So far, the difference I have noticed between union and non-union areas is this: in the heavily unionized locales, all work done is very expensive, but it is also mostly done correctly; in the lightly unionized locales, work is inexpensive, but is slipshod, and without any express or implied warranty. Both take at least twice as long as you think should be necessary, but the union guys will at least show…
How does employer's inability to fire for sub-par performance leads to better work from employees? Who is this magical employer that exhibits those contradictory traits: * super harsh, fires workers for sneezing * doesn't fire workers for not working
There are employers out there that pull this crap. You don't have to work if you know the right people. You can't make waves if you don't.
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In general, "at will" employees don't have anything to negotiate. It's strictly take it or leave it. There are no contracts unless the CEO gets involved, and the CEO won't be getting involved just for you. The hiring manager will just pass on you and move to the next-best candidate. You negotiate your starting salary, and that's it. So make sure you account for the likelihood that you will get zero notice and zero se…
You are quite simply wrong. When you negotiate severance in an at-will employment agreement, it will involve the same kinds of contractual documents you have to sign as when you are offered severance upon a sudden termination. There are usually documents relating to non-disparagement and possibly enhanced agreements about non-disclosure or non-compete that extend beyond things in the company handbook. They include sp…
Don't tell me I'm wrong. I lived it.
They don't want to do it because, like offering vacation instead of PTO, it represents a cost of firing someone. They very much want to be able to drop anyone, at any time, for free, as that means they don't need to set aside money for firing people.
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> Seriously, what has he done to deserve this negativity? Interesting isn't it? It's almost like someone turned on a switch and suddenly there is rampant anti-elon musk sentiment. What has elon musk done recently? Well, he went after the biased media. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1000560049389907969?lang... and the "journalists" have been waging a war against him. There is a ridiculous amount of news industry…
Alternatively, Musk does a lot of bad things and the journalists are rightfully calling him out for it. Musk is notoriously anti-union, continually over-promises then under-delivers, has continually treated his wives as trophies, and has designed a worse subway just because he doesn't want his knees to touch some peasant's knees. He's just another shitty billionaire
But he's always been this way. The question is why the sudden change in sentiment?
And as bad as elon musk is, the journalists are much worse. I'd rather have a world full of elon musks than journalists.
> Musk is notoriously anti-union
To be fair, no entrepreneur in a fledgling/new industry is pro-union. Actually, no entrepreneur is pro-union.
> continually over-promises then under-delivers
That's shareholders' concern, not ours.
> has continually treated his wives as trophies
Welcome to humanity. Are you going to blame his wives who loved to be trophies? Seems like personal business between consenting adults.
> and has designed a worse subway just because he doesn't want his knees to touch some peasant's knees.
As opposed to the elitist journos who love to slum it with the peasants right?
> He's just another shitty billionaire
Who the media loved. For nearly 20 years, the media wasn't too concerned with his anti-union stance, his trophy wives, his failure to delivery on his promises, etc.
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I actually think the Apple comparison is quite apt; it's the novel application and extension of existing technologies into desirable consumer-level products. Not an Apple product/feature announcement goes by without a chorus of people shouting about how it's not really an invention because some other company already has it buried in their product. Can't the same be said about virtually everything Tesla is doing in th…
The only problem is that Apple products have been printing money for the past 15 years while Tesla products burn through money. The argument against Tesla isn't about their products, it is about the economic valuation of the company making the products.
Also, Tesla does well between car development cycles. If they can ride it out, they can print money too. The problem is whether they can get BETTER at developing new cars with less investment, and ramping more quickly, driving true volume. They might print money for a few quarters once Model 3 production is up, but that depends on there being an endless stream of buyers, and in cars, we know that's not the case.
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Is this a regional thing? I've never seen any 3rd-party sales staff in a Home Depot here in Chicago, or anything like this in any other big box store I frequent.
I’ve seen it here in Ohio. Sams Club and also Menards. Usually some guy at a aisle or back of the store trying to sell satellite tv. It is annoying... Just shopping for whatever you needed and some random guy asks what you have for television. Also seen a woman trying to sell perfume and wanted to spray some on people at another store, kinda pushy near where the cash registers are. Aren’t some people allergic to that…
I've had that in Costco, trying to sell me cable TV service. Then they act completely flabbergasted when I say I don't watch TV and don't care about cable.
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Personally I don't disagree with the notion of taking huge risks and going all out. Tesla and SpaceX have made the world a better place in my view, and they've definitely made the world more interesting. That said, the overhyping, recklessness and hubris at this stage on the Tesla front seems like instead of helping achieve the wildly ambitious goal, they're making it more likely to fail. If Tesla was slightly more r…
>That said, the overhyping, recklessness and hubris at this stage on the Tesla front seems like instead of helping achieve the wildly ambitious goal, they're making it more likely to fail. If Tesla was slightly more reasonable, and extended their timelines out a bit, it's entirely likely they'd be selling more, better cars. I think Musk and Tesla are in the middle of a real life trolley problem. It is certainly true…
Tesla and SpaceX are businesses and I never understood the public fandom behind them and Elon Musk. 3,500+ people losing their jobs is pretty significant for a leader who touts altruism as one of his top motivators.