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Clan Wars Blamed for Ancient Collapse of the Male Chromosome

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Re: Clan Wars Blamed for Ancient Collapse of the Male Chromosome

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Redirects to history.nl for me, with no article to be found. (I'm not even in the Netherlands, and my browser doesn't ask for Dutch via Accept-Language.)

Redirects to https://www.history.co.uk/ for me. Stupid.

Google's cache works.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ehTZ26r...

Re: Clan Wars Blamed for Ancient Collapse of the Male Chromosome

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I'm not an expert in this domain, but something seems a little off to me. Are we saying that all male populations around the planet 5000 to 7000 years ago were engaged in serious clan wars, or are we just focused on the Asian and/or African continents?

What about populations in Australia, the Pacific Islands and other places?

Re: Clan Wars Blamed for Ancient Collapse of the Male Chromosome

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While I do think this is an interesting argument, I fear that this may somehow be spinned into the toxic masculinity narrative. edit: I'm getting downvoted for adding to an argument with an unpopular opinion? It would be more educative of people responding to me to tell how I'm wrong, instead of just downvoting.

Anybody who uses that narrative as a point against men is stupid. Men were made to fight. We would be cavemen still if it weren’t for the competitiveness of males.

Re: Clan Wars Blamed for Ancient Collapse of the Male Chromosome

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post #9
post #3

Redirects to history.nl for me, with no article to be found. (I'm not even in the Netherlands, and my browser doesn't ask for Dutch via Accept-Language.)

For everyone having trouble accessing the article, here's a paste: https://pastebin.com/raw/S229NyJW Actually, it's interesting reading an article with just text and nothing else. It kind of makes me want a text-based browser mode that works on modern sites.

You mean Reader View? I believe Safari pioneered this, Firefox has it too. Not sure about Chrome and Edge.

Re: Clan Wars Blamed for Ancient Collapse of the Male Chromosome

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post #9
post #3

Redirects to history.nl for me, with no article to be found. (I'm not even in the Netherlands, and my browser doesn't ask for Dutch via Accept-Language.)

For everyone having trouble accessing the article, here's a paste: https://pastebin.com/raw/S229NyJW Actually, it's interesting reading an article with just text and nothing else. It kind of makes me want a text-based browser mode that works on modern sites.

The "reader mode" in Safari and Firefox is pretty good.

Re: Clan Wars Blamed for Ancient Collapse of the Male Chromosome

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post #14

While I do think this is an interesting argument, I fear that this may somehow be spinned into the toxic masculinity narrative. edit: I'm getting downvoted for adding to an argument with an unpopular opinion? It would be more educative of people responding to me to tell how I'm wrong, instead of just downvoting.

Anybody who uses that narrative as a point against men is stupid. Men were made to fight. We would be cavemen still if it weren’t for the competitiveness of males.

You're probably right, but you might be underestimating the number of stupid people out there.

Re: Clan Wars Blamed for Ancient Collapse of the Male Chromosome

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post #3

Redirects to history.nl for me, with no article to be found. (I'm not even in the Netherlands, and my browser doesn't ask for Dutch via Accept-Language.)

Redirects to history.de for me. (Which is correct in some geofencing sense, using a vpn solves the problem.)

Sort of fun to have a light challenge to obtain documents THEY (history.com) don't want you to see.

Re: Clan Wars Blamed for Ancient Collapse of the Male Chromosome

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tl;dr, over the course of 1,000 years clans fought themselves over resources and only a few families/males survived.

As a result, a male may have hundreds of children.

This is somewhat similar to the Genghis Kahn situation where millions of people has his DNA.

Btw, I didnt think this was a surprise.

Re: Clan Wars Blamed for Ancient Collapse of the Male Chromosome

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post #15
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For everyone having trouble accessing the article, here's a paste: https://pastebin.com/raw/S229NyJW Actually, it's interesting reading an article with just text and nothing else. It kind of makes me want a text-based browser mode that works on modern sites.

You mean Reader View? I believe Safari pioneered this, Firefox has it too. Not sure about Chrome and Edge.

Chrome will do it, but Google doesn't like to make it easy for you to remove content/noise. In Windows you have to add

  --enable-dom-distiller
to the end of "Target" in the shortcut properties. Then it shows up as "Distill page" in the drop-down menu.

Edge has reader mode, but it won't work for every webpage (seems to not work for the noisiest ones, where you really want it).

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